Forces acting on a Walking Beam (oil rig pump) from a pivot pin

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The discussion revolves around the forces acting on a walking beam (DEF) at a pivot pin (E) in the context of structural analysis. Participants are trying to clarify the role of the pin and the beams connected to it in exerting forces and torques.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the nature of forces at the pivot pin E and question whether the pin exerts work or if the connected beams influence the forces acting on the walking beam DEF. There is also discussion about the representation of forces in a free body diagram (FBD).

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Some participants have provided insights into the mechanics of the system, suggesting that while forces at E can be drawn for completeness, they do not contribute to torque about E. There is an ongoing exploration of how to accurately represent forces in the FBD and the implications of the connections between the beams and the pin.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of structural analysis and the assumptions related to the forces at play, particularly in relation to the static equilibrium of the system. There is a focus on understanding the interactions between the pin and the beams without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement
So I just want to see which forc acts on the walking beam at E but itsn't quite obvious to me from the figure.
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So.. question:
- How do I know that only the pin is at work at E and not those 2 beams? my guess: It is because those 2 beams are connected to the pin whilst the pin is the one that exerts a force on that walking beam DEF?

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link223 said:
Homework Statement:: So I just want to see which forc acts on the walking beam at E but itsn't quite obvious to me from the figure.
Relevant Equations:: Structural Analysis

How do I know that only the pin is at work at E and not those 2 beams?
I have no idea what your question means.
What do you mean by pin E being "at work"? Do you mean it is doing work? It does not move, so it can't do work.
What two beams? DEF is a single beam.

The motor exerts a torque at A on beam AB. In addition, the counterweight exerts a force at B. These result in a force at D, which in turn exerts a torque about E on beam DEF, etc. You do not need to consider forces at E.
 
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haruspex said:
I have no idea what your question means.
What do you mean by pin E being "at work"? Do you mean it is doing work? It does not move, so it can't do work.
What two beams? DEF is a single beam.

The motor exerts a torque at A on beam AB. In addition, the counterweight exerts a force at B. These result in a force at D, which in turn exerts a torque about E on beam DEF, etc. You do not need to consider forces at E.
Thank you for your answer!
That is indeed what I did (just solved the exercise with this exact method) but on the FBD, there will be a horizontal and vertical force exerted on the beam DEF at E because of that pin.
What i was confused with was whether it is the actual force components from the pin that needs to be drawn or also the forces that replace those two member that connect to E (the ones for stability) which is appearantly not the case.
 
link223 said:
Thank you for your answer!
That is indeed what I did (just solved the exercise with this exact method) but on the FBD, there will be a horizontal and vertical force exerted on the beam DEF at E because of that pin.
What i was confused with was whether it is the actual force components from the pin that needs to be drawn or also the forces that replace those two member that connect to E (the ones for stability) which is appearantly not the case.
You can draw forces at E for completeness, but forces applied at E cannot exert a torque about E. So as long as you use the torque balance about E for your equation you can ignore those forces.
 
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If you are drawing the FBD of beam DEF, pin E should have represented two reactive forces that oppose the two external forces (at D and at F) at that exact frozen instant represented in the picture.
 
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haruspex said:
You can draw forces at E for completeness, but forces applied at E cannot exert a torque about E. So as long as you use the torque balance about E for your equation you can ignore those forces.
Yes that is indeed what I did (it was for completeness :) ) thank you
 
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If you are drawing the FBD of beam DEF, pin E should have represented two reactive forces that oppose the two external forces (at D and at F) at that exact frozen instant represented in the picture.
Thank you that is indeed what I did, I was just confused whether those two member that are connected to E are actually connected to E (the pin) or actually exert some force on DEF directly which is not the case.
 
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