Forces on a passenger in a car?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the forces acting on a passenger in a car traveling at constant speed on a level surface. Participants explore the nature of these forces, particularly focusing on whether there is a horizontal net force acting on the passenger and how this relates to Newton's laws of motion.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the forces acting on a passenger include weight and a reactive force, but question whether there is a horizontal net force acting on the passenger.
  • Others assert that since the car is moving at a constant speed, the passengers are not accelerating, implying there is no net force acting on them.
  • A participant raises a hypothetical scenario where a passenger sticks their head out of the window and claims to feel a net force, prompting further inquiry into the perception of forces in different contexts.
  • One participant draws a parallel between the situation of a passenger in a car and those in a train or airplane, suggesting that the answer regarding forces remains consistent regardless of the speed of travel.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that if the car is moving at constant speed, the passengers are not experiencing acceleration and thus there is no net force acting on them. However, the discussion includes differing views on the implications of this scenario, particularly regarding the perception of forces.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference Newton's second law in their reasoning, but the discussion does not resolve the nuances of how forces are perceived in different situations, such as the passenger's experience when interacting with the environment outside the vehicle.

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What would the forces acting only on a passenger in a car going at constant speed on a level surface be? Of course, there would be weight and the reactive force acting on any passenger, but is there a horizontal net force? Or are there just the forces acting on the car and there are no horizontal forces acting on the passenger directly?
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beans123 said:
What would the forces acting only on a passenger in a car going at constant speed on a level surface be? Of course, there would be weight and the reactive force acting on any passenger, but is there a horizontal net force? Or are there just the forces acting on the car and there are no horizontal forces acting on the passenger directly?
Thanks
Is this question for homework? Or a general question as you study Physics at school?
 
This is just a general question based from a personal conversation I had.
 
beans123 said:
This is just a general question based from a personal conversation I had.
Ok, in that case the question @BvU asked in post #2 is your starting point. What difference does it make? Newton’s second law may also be helpful.
 
beans123 said:
The passengers wouldn't be accelerating since the car is at a constant speed which, of course, means there's no net force.
I agree. What about a follow-up question:
One of the passengers (unwisely) sticks his head out of the window and claims: I can clearly feel a net force ?

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beans123 said:
What would the forces acting only on a passenger in a car going at constant speed on a level surface be?
None.

It is the same answer for a passenger in a train going at 300 km/h or one in an airplane going at 750 km/h. It is also the same answer for a human being standing still at the equator while actually moving at 1670 km/h.
 

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