Formula for Helmholtz Coil with a finite thickness?

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The discussion revolves around deriving a formula for the magnetic field produced by a Helmholtz coil configuration that includes a finite thickness. Participants explore the implications of this modification on the traditional Helmholtz coil formula, considering the use of the Biot-Savart Law and numerical methods for calculation.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a formula for the Helmholtz coil and seeks to modify it for a configuration with finite thickness and separation between coils.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to understand the current distribution in the coils, questioning whether it flows on the surface or throughout the cross-sectional area.
  • A participant assumes that the current flows evenly on the surface of the coils.
  • It is suggested that if the coils have a small axial length compared to their radii, placing their centers one radius apart may not introduce significant error, and a standard formula for finite solenoids could be applicable.
  • One participant proposes that a numerical solution might be easier due to the complexity of the Biot-Savart Law in this context.
  • A later reply provides a derived expression for the magnetic field at the midpoint between the coils, including a correction factor based on the axial distance of the coil ends from their centers, while noting the potential for errors in the derivation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying approaches to the problem, with some suggesting analytical methods and others advocating for numerical solutions. There is no consensus on the best method or the implications of the finite thickness on the magnetic field calculation.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of integrating the fields due to finite-length coils and the potential for small errors in assumptions about coil placement and current distribution.

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The formula for Helmholtz coil is given by mu*(0.8^1.5)*nI/R, where I is the current, n is te number of coil and R is the radius of the coil.

Now assume the bunch of coils have a small 'thickness' w (so it looks like a hollow cylinder with a very small height), and the the two coils are separated by R' (R' is measured from the two inner most coils). How should I set-up the integral using Biot-Savart Law (or other method) to find the expression for B-field for this 'non-ideal' Helmholtz coil?
 
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You will need to know the current distribution through the coils. Is the current conducted on the surface of the coils or equally across the cross sectional area?
 
I will assume the current flows evenly on the surface of that 'short, hollow cylinder'
 
If the coils have small axial length compared with their radii you won't make much error by placing their CENTRES one radius apart. If you still want a correction, then you'll find there's a simple equation out there for the field (at points on the axis) of a solenoid of finite length (which is what each of your coils is, if I've understood aright). It's a fairly standard formula, usually obtained by integrating up the fields due to 'flat' coils, into which the solenoid can be split. Anyway, you can use it to give you the field at the centre of your non-ideal Helmholtz pair. Come back if this isn't clear.
 
It's probably easier to solve this numerically. It's a simple application of Biot-Savart but rather messy.
 
For what it's worth, I carried out the programme in post 4, expanding the cosines as Taylor series in terms of axial distance \Delta x of the ends of the coils from their middles, and with the middles of the coils one radius (a) apart, found that B midway between the coils was
B = \frac{\mu_0 I n}{a} \left[\frac{4}{5}\right]^\frac{3}{2} \left[1+\frac{3}{10} \frac{(\Delta x)^2}{a^2}\right].
The last set of square brackets contains the correction factor. As you can see, its very small, even if \Delta x = 0.1 x, that is even if the axial lengths of the coil is 20% of the coil radius.

Of course, I may have made slips...
 
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