Finding Formulas from Systematic Names: How Does the Number in Parentheses Help?

AI Thread Summary
The discussion focuses on understanding the significance of the oxidation number in parentheses within systematic names, particularly for compounds like sodium chlorate(I) and sodium chlorate(V). The oxidation number indicates the charge of the central atom, which is crucial for determining the correct chemical formula. For example, sodium chlorate(V) has a chlorine oxidation state of +5, leading to the formula NaClO3, while sodium chlorate(I) has chlorine at +1, resulting in NaClO. The conversation emphasizes the need to balance charges to achieve a neutral compound and clarifies that the nomenclature differs from traditional "ate" and "ite" systems. Ultimately, the oxidation numbers guide the identification of the number of oxygen atoms in these compounds.
IDK10
Messages
67
Reaction score
3

Homework Statement


Sodium chlorate(I)
Sodium chlorate(V)
Potassium nitride(III)
Phosphorus(III) chloride
Magnesium iodate(I)

Homework Equations


None

The Attempt at a Solution


I know the number in the bracket refers to what's before it, i.e. in sodium chlorate(V), the (V) means that the chlorine has an oxidation number of +5, but how does this help me find the fomula of the copound.

For example with sodium chlorate(V):
I know its made from sodium (Na+) ions, and chlorate(ClO3-) ions.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Molecule must be neutral, assume charge on oxygen to be -2.
 
I'm not familiar with the use of this style for negative oxidation numbers, e.g. potassium nitride(III), if this is really K3N and not a typo for potassium nitrate(III) = potassium nitrite = KNO2.
 
Borek said:
Molecule must be neutral, assume charge on oxygen to be -2.
For sodium chlorate(I)
Na would be +1
Cl would be +1
and O would be -2
1 + 1 - 3(2) = -4 (what would I do with this?)

Or

Na + 1 -6 = 0
Na = 5 (?)

For sodium chlorate(V)
Na would be +1
Cl would be +5
and O would be -2
1 + 5 - 3(-2) = 0
NaClO3
 
.
 
How many oxygens are there in sodium chlorate(I)?
Note: in this nomenclature you must not get hung up on the notion that e.g. "chlorate" means "ClO3". All oxysalts are "ates" with different oxidation number of the central atom. This is quite different from the "ate", "ite", "per...ate" system.
 
mjc123 said:
How many oxygens are there in sodium chlorate(I)?
Note: in this nomenclature you must not get hung up on the notion that e.g. "chlorate" means "ClO3". All oxysalts are "ates" with different oxidation number of the central atom. This is quite different from the "ate", "ite", "per...ate" system.
I'm not sure, I have to find the formula just from the name. I know sodium chlorate(v) has 3.
 
IDK10 said:
For sodium chlorate(I)
Na would be +1
Cl would be +1
and O would be -2

And assuming one Na and one Cl, how many oxygens are needed for the molecule to be neutral?
 
Borek said:
And assuming one Na and one Cl, how many oxygens are needed for the molecule to be neutral?
While I was away, amd therefore didn't see your reply, I was thinking and I think i got it:
1 + 1 -2O = 0
-2O = -2
O = 1
NaClO?
 
  • #10
IDK10 said:
While I was away, amd therefore didn't see your reply, I was thinking and I think i got it:
1 + 1 -2O = 0
-2O = -2
O = 1
NaClO?

Yep.

Try with chlorate(III) and chlorate(V).
 
  • #11
Borek said:
Yep.

Try with chlorate(III) and chlorate(V).
Sodium chlorate(III):
1+3-2O=0
-2O=-4
O=2
NaClO2

Sodium chlorate(V):
1+5-2O=0
-2O=-6
O=3
NaClO3
 
  • #12
At least with these you should have no problems now :wink:
 

Similar threads

Replies
3
Views
4K
Back
Top