Formula Rewriting for Different Units Help

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The discussion revolves around modifying an equation for the boiling temperature of isopropanol to work with different units, specifically converting from Kelvin and bar to degrees Fahrenheit and psi. The original equation is T = B / (A - log10P) - C, with specific values for A, B, and C. The user attempts to derive a new equation in the form T = B' / (A' - ln(P)) - C', but encounters discrepancies when testing with a pressure of 1 atm. After some calculations, it is clarified that the conversion from psi to bar requires division by 14.5, leading to the correct adjustments for A', B', and C'. The user ultimately resolves the issue with the conversion and confirms the correct values.
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Homework Statement



Hello. I have a small question... How does one correctly "modify" an equation to work in different units?

The equation below gives the boiling temperature of isopropanol as a function of pressure:

T = B / (A - log10P) - C

Where T is in kelvin, P is in bar, and

A= 4.57795
B= 1221.423
C= -87.474

Obtain an equation that gives the boiling temperature in degrees F, as a function of ln(P), with P in psi.

It must be in the form

T = B' / (A' - ln(P)) - C', where A', B', C' are different numerical values from those given above.

Homework Equations



log10x = ln x / ln (10)

ln(ab) = ln(a) + ln(b)

1 bar = 14.5 psi
1 atm = 1.013 bar = 14.7 psi

Kelvin to degrees F: ((T - 273.15) * 1.8) + 32

The Attempt at a Solution



I worked it out, but when I try a "test" value of 1 atm (14.7 psi, 1.013 bar) the temperature values do not match after conversion!

If overall, the temperature T is in kelvin, then change the RHS into degrees F.

T = ([B / (A - ln(P*14.5 psi/bar)/ln(10)) - C] - 273.15)*1.8 + 32

T = ([B / ((A - ln(P) + ln(14.5))/ln(10)) - C] - 273.15)*1.8 + 32

I now multiply the B/A fraction by ln(10)/ln(10), and factor in the 1.8.

T = ([1.8*ln(10)B / (ln(10)A - ln(P) - ln(14.5)) - 1.8C] - 1.8*273.15) + 32

T = [1.8*ln(10)B / (ln(10)A - ln(P) - ln(14.5)) - 1.8(C + 273.15)] + 32

Now, I define

1.8*ln(10)B = B'

ln(10)A - ln(14.5) = A'

1.8(C + 273.15) + 32 = C'

So now I have

T = B' / (A' - ln(P)) - C'

A' = 7.866970777
B' = 5062.374706
C' = 302.2168 (I accounted for the negative so that it works in the equation written as is)

But when I test a pressure of 1 atm (1.013 bar = 14.7 psi), I get a temperature of 355K. This should correspond to a degrees F of around 180, but I'm getting around 600 when I use my new formula with pressure 14.7 psi.

Any help?
 
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To convert from psi to bar, divide (not multiply) by 14.5

So A' = ln(10)A + ln(14.5)
 
Thanks! :D Got it.
 

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