Thermodynamics Problem - Adiabatic Reversible Process....

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a thermodynamics problem involving an ideal gas undergoing a reversible adiabatic process. Participants are tasked with calculating the final pressure of the gas given its specific heat capacity as a function of temperature and initial conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • The specific heat capacity of the gas is defined as cp = 0.5 + 876T, where cp is a function of temperature T.
  • The initial conditions are given as T1 = 294 K and P1 = 1x10^5 Pa, with a final temperature of T2 = 778 K.
  • The participant expresses confusion regarding the integration process and the resulting equation, particularly the term e^1488.810788 being undefinable.
  • One participant questions the value of 876, suggesting it might be incorrect and proposes alternative values such as 0.0876, 0.00876, or 0.000876.
  • Another participant confirms the methodology and arithmetic are correct but reiterates concern over the value of 876 in the specific heat capacity equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methodology and arithmetic used in the problem-solving process. However, there is disagreement regarding the validity of the value 876 in the specific heat capacity equation, with some participants expressing skepticism about its correctness.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the issue regarding the specific heat capacity value, which remains a point of contention. The integration steps and assumptions made during the calculations are also not fully clarified.

Allison Barry
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Homework Statement
A specific type of ideal gas has a specific heat capacity at constant pressure (cp=cv+R) that is a function of temperature T, such that cp=0.5+876T, where cp has units of J/kg/K and T has units of K. The gas, which is initially at T1 = 294 K and P1 = 1x105 Pa, undergoes a reversible adiabatic process such that its final temperature is T2 = 778 K. Calculate the pressure of the gas (in Pa) in this final state. Assume the following ideal gas constant: R = 287 J/kg/K. Recall that ds = cpdT/T – RdP/P.

Relevant equations
Reversible Adiabatic process:
Entropy is 0 because this is adiabatic and reversible.
Constituitive relation for entropy of such a process is:
S2 - S1 = ∫12dS = 0
dS = cp(dT/T) - R(dP/P) = 0
Attempt:
Integrating I got:
T1T2(0.5 + 876T).(dT/T) - 287∫P1P2(dP/P)
876(778 - 294) + (0.5) ln (778/294) = 287ln(P2 / 100,000Pa)
Getting 1488.810788 = lnP2

But e1488.810788 is undefinable? I am confused? Did I integrate this wrong?
 
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That 876 looks very, very, very suspicious. Are you sure it's not 0.0876 or 0.00876 or, more likely, 0.000876? There's definitely something wrong here.

Your methodology and arithmetic are correct, however.

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
That 876 looks very, very, very suspicious. Are you sure it's not 0.0876 or 0.00876 or, more likely, 0.000876? There's definitely something wrong here.

Your methodology and arithmetic are correct, however.

Chet
876 is part of "a +bt", the linear relationship between temperature and Cp, it's 0.5 + 876T
 
Allison Barry said:
876 is part of "a +bt", the linear relationship between temperature and Cp, it's 0.5 + 876T
What I'm saying is that there is something wrong with that value. It can't be correct.
 

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