Fourier Series Integration by Parts Solution

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The discussion revolves around the integration of a function involving an exponential term, specifically using integration by parts to evaluate the integral of \(-t e^{-j2\pi nt}\) over the interval from \(-1\) to \(0\). The context is within Fourier series, where the original poster is attempting to derive a specific result related to complex Fourier series integration.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts integration by parts and expresses confusion over the expected outcome of the integral. Some participants question the evaluation limits and the presence of variables in the final expression. Others suggest reconsidering the relationship between exponential and trigonometric forms in the context of Fourier series.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's approach, providing clarifications and questioning specific aspects of the integration process. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between different forms of the Fourier series, but no consensus has been reached regarding the correct interpretation or resolution of the problem.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding the use of notation (specifically the use of "j" versus "i") and the implications of the exponential terms in the context of Fourier series. The original poster also references a potential discrepancy between results obtained through different methods.

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Homework Statement


Solve [tex]\frac{1}{1}[/tex] [tex]\int^{0}_{-1}[/tex] -t e[tex]^{-j2\pi*nt}[/tex]dt

Homework Equations


So I use integration by parts
u = -t and dv = e[tex]^{-j2\pi*nt}[/tex] , du= -1 and v = [tex]\frac{1}{-j2\pi*n}[/tex]e[tex]^{-j2\pi*nt}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


after integration by parts I get:
[tex]\frac{e^-j2\pi*nt}{j2pi*n}[/tex] + [tex]\frac{1}{(j2pi*n)^{2}}[/tex] [1 - e[tex]^{-j2\pi*nt}[/tex]]

So basically I am suppose to end up with [tex]\frac{1}{j2pi*n}[/tex] but it doesn't work out like it should.
Any help would be good thanks.
 
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First, you certainly do not get anything involving "t" when you have evaluated at t= 0 and -1! Did you mean
[tex]\frac{e^{2\pi i n}}{2\pi i n}+ \frac{1- e^{2\pi i n}}{(2\pi i n)^2}[/tex]

What is [itex]e^{-2\pi i nt}[/itex]?
(Sorry, but I just can't force my self to use "j" instead of "i"!)
 
woops my bad, those t's arent spose to be in there. But the rest is right.

And yes it is what you typed out.

Im leading to think I shouldn't get the same answer as what I got using the Trig-Complex Relationship equation. Which is why I am getting something different.

The exponential part is what I integrate with to evaluate the complex Fourier series. See the equation. -t is the function.
 
Once again, what is
[tex]e^{-2\pi i n}[/tex]?
 
In trig FS, you evaluate each component a0, an, bn. Well the exponential replaces that I think.

im guessing you use Euler's Rules (i think) to evaluate it which says

sin theta = 1 / 2i [ e ^ i*theta - e ^ -i*theta]
cos theta = 1 /2 [ e ^ i*theta + e ^ -i*theta]

Hopefully that answered that.
 

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