Fourier Transform using duality property?

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The discussion revolves around finding the Fourier transform of the function x(t) = 4 / (4 - i*t)^2, utilizing the duality property of Fourier transforms. Participants are exploring the implications of this property and its application to the given function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about the duality property and seeks clarification on its interpretation. Some participants suggest examining the inverse Fourier transform and manipulating it to find a suitable expression. Others reference a table of Fourier transform pairs to identify similarities and potential connections to the problem at hand.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering guidance on how to approach the inverse transform and discussing the relevance of specific Fourier transform pairs. There is an acknowledgment of confusion among some members, but the dialogue remains focused on understanding the concepts rather than reaching a definitive solution.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the complexity of the integral involved and the potential for mistakes in interpretation. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts to clarify the duality property and its application, as well as the challenges posed by the problem's structure.

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Homework Statement


Find the Fourier transform of

x(t) = 4 / (4 - i*t)^2

where i is imaginary

Homework Equations



Duality Property F(t) ↔ 2πf(-ω) when f(t) ↔ F(ω)

The Attempt at a Solution



I am not sure if duality property is the way to solve this. I look at a list of properties and this seems to hold most promise. The issue is the book simply states the property and gives no example. I am not even completely sure how to interpret this property. Perhaps this is my issue. Can someone please help explain this property to me?
 
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What you have is a Fourier transform of something, can you see what? When you figure that out you can take a look at the formula for the inverse Fourier transform, try to manipulate it so you get an expression that works in the other direction.
 
alivedude said:
What you have is a Fourier transform of something, can you see what? When you figure that out you can take a look at the formula for the inverse Fourier transform, try to manipulate it so you get an expression that works in the other direction.

I have this table of pairs I see a similarity with the following

e^( -a * |t| ) ; where a∈ℝ > 0 ↔ 2a / (a^2 + I * ω)

Would I be correct in saying I can rewrite my original function as f(-ω)4 / (4 - i * t)^2 = 4 / (4 + i * ω)^2 = (2 * 2) / (2^2 + i * ω)^2

Is this is correct?
 
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Jake 7174 said:
I have this table of pairs I see a similarity with the following

e^( -a * |t| ) ; where a∈ℝ > 0 ↔ 2a / (a^2 + I * ω)

Would I be correct in saying I can rewrite my original function as f(-ω)4 / (4 - i * t)^2 = 4 / (4 + i * ω)^2 (2 * 2) / (2^2 + i * ω)^2

If this is correct?

No, not quite. But take a look at the transformation you found in your table, in your case ##a=2## right? Now, plug this into the inverse Fourier transform here

##
f(t) = \frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}F(\omega)e^{i \omega t} d \omega
##

and see if you can come up with something.

Hint: The Inverse transform looks pretty similar to the transform itself, doesn't it?
 
alivedude said:
No, not quite. But take a look at the transformation you found in your table, in your case ##a=2## right? Now, plug this into the inverse Fourier transform here

##
f(t) = \frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}F(\omega)e^{i \omega t} d \omega
##

and see if you can come up with something.

Hint: The Inverse transform looks pretty similar to the transform itself, doesn't it?

I am a bit confused. The transform looks very similar to the original function with the exception of the denominator being squared. But what do I plug in for F(ω) is it

∫ (2 * 2) / (2^2 + i * ω) eiωt
 
Jake 7174 said:
I am a bit confused. The transform looks very similar to the original function with the exception of the denominator being squared. But what do I plug in for F(ω) is it

∫ (2 * 2) / (2^2 + i * ω) eiωt

There is a pair that looks like it matches much nicerit is

t e ^(- at) u(t) ↔ ( 1 / (a + i * ω) )^2

should I be focusing on this pair?
 
Jake 7174 said:
There is a pair that looks like it matches much nicerit is

t e ^(- at) u(t) ↔ ( 1 / (a + i * ω) )^2

should I be focusing on this pair?

What do YOU think?
 
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Jake 7174 said:
There is a pair that looks like it matches much nicerit is

t e ^(- at) u(t) ↔ ( 1 / (a + i * ω) )^2

should I be focusing on this pair?

Yes! This is what we want to use here.

What I ment was that the formula for the inverse transform looks very similar to the formula for the transform itself, I'm sorry if I confused you.

But ok, in this case what you have is this (you forgot the ##2 \pi ##)

##
f(t) = \frac{1}{2 \pi} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\frac{1}{(a+i\omega)^2}e^{i \omega t}d \omega = u(t)te^{-at}
##

Now I claim that you can get your wanted Fourier transform out of this by doing only three things, one is putting your ## a = 4 ##, the next thing is multiply both sides by ##2 \pi ## and then by ##4##, the last and most important thing you will have to figure it out yourself. But do these two steps first and then compare it with the formula for the Fourier transform. I think you got this.
 
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Ray Vickson said:
What do YOU think?

I think I am very confused and looking for help. I am not trying to get someone to give me an answer. I am looking to understand. Thanks for YOUR help.
 
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alivedude said:
The one you got first is actually more neat in this situation, when you solve this you will understand why. But let's go back to the problemWhat I ment was that the formula for the inverse transform looks very similar to the formula for the transform itself, I'm sorry if I confused you.

But ok, in this case what you have is this (you forgot the ##2 \pi ##)

##
f(t) = \frac{1}{2 \pi} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty}\frac{2a}{(a^2+i\omega)^2}e^{i \omega t}d \omega = e^{-a|t|}
##

Now I claim that you can get your wanted Fourier transform out of this by doing only three things, one is putting your ## a = 2 ##, the next thing is multiply both sides by ##2 \pi ## and the last and most important thing you will have to figure it out yourself. But do these two steps first and then compare it with the formula for the Fourier transform. I think you got this.

This is a nasty integral. I'm grinding it out.
 
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Jake 7174 said:
This is a nasty integral. I'm grinding it out.

It looks like I made a mistake when I looked at your problem, you had it right when you asked me if you should focus on that second pair. I have changed my post above now and I hope I didn't screw up somewhere else.

And you don't need to compute any integrals at all, all you need to do is manipulate this expression.
 
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