Chemistry Full Excitation of Molecular Vibration Modes

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The discussion focuses on determining the number of fully excited vibrational modes of a molecule based on the relationship of Cp/R as a function of temperature. Participants express difficulty finding resources that directly address this problem, suggesting it may be obscure. The conversation explores specific examples, such as the Cp/R values for monatomic gases, linear rotors, and various molecules like water and methane, highlighting differences in molecular structure. Questions arise about how Cp/R varies among different types of molecules, including floppy versus rigid structures. Overall, understanding these relationships is essential for grasping the concept of fully excited vibrational modes in molecular dynamics.
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Homework Statement


Given the relationship Cp/R as a function of Temperature, approximate the number of fully excited vibration modes at a given temperature for a given molecule.

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I have looked through several textbooks and many web sites, but I can't find this type of problem discussed anywhere. vaguely similar problems I have found only assume given excitation states. It seems like a relatively obscure problem, but I assume there is a generic solution process.
 
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I assume you are talking about degree of freedom, the total ways in which the molecule can exhibit motion, seeing you mentioned Cp/R.

Anyway, can you give a sample molecule on which you would like to attempt this question on?
 
Let's think specifically about Cp/R

What is the value of Cp/R for a monatomic gas? is it the same for all monatomic gases?

Now what is it for a linear rotor? Is it the same for N2, O2, CO2?

What about I2 -- that value is a little bit different -- why?

What is the value of Cp/R for water? Methane? Could you tell whether SO2 was linear or bent by looking at Cp/R?

How and why does Cp/R differ for a really floppy molecule like 1-propanol and a really rigid molecule like benzene?

And if you can work your way through all of that you should have a really good idea about the relationship between Cp/R and "fully excited" vibrational modes.
 
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