Fundamental Frequency of a string

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The problem involves determining the fundamental frequency of a string that is fixed at both ends, with a given length and frequency of vibration. The string is noted to vibrate in eight sections, indicating the presence of multiple harmonics.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the number of antinodes and harmonics, with some attempting to clarify the concept of fundamental frequency versus higher harmonics. There are questions about the necessity of calculating velocity and how it relates to finding the fundamental frequency.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions about harmonics and their relationship to frequency. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between antinodes and harmonics, but no consensus has been reached.

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There is confusion regarding the definitions of fundamental frequency and harmonics, as well as the calculations involved. Participants express uncertainty about the correct approach to take in solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


The length of a string is 1440 cm. The
string is held fixed at each end. The string
vibrates in eight sections; i.e., the string has
eight antinodes, and the string vibrates at
150 Hz.

What is the fundamental frequency? Answer
in units of Hz.

Homework Equations



f = nv / 2L frequency = (# antinodes)(velocity) / (2 * length)

The Attempt at a Solution



I already found the wavelength which is 3.6 m. I got that by substituting nv/2L for f into the equation v=λf (velocity = wavelength*frequency). Then I followed the above frequency formula:

v=λf
v=(3.6 m)(150 Hz) = 540 m/s

f = nv / 2L
f = (8)(540 m/s) / (2*14.4 m) = 150 Hz

My online HW said it was wrong. So I tried again.

f = (2)(540 m/s) / (2*14.4 m) = 37.5 Hz

I used two because it said that fundamental frequency is the lowest frequency and you can use the first harmonic or something. Didn't really understand it. But the two is because the 1st harmonic has 2 antinodes.

I am so confused and I have no clue what I am doing! Please help <:S
 
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If there are 8 antinodes then there are 4 wavelengths represented on the string.

But I think 8 antinodes means it's the 8'th harmonic of the string.

So isn't 1/8 of 150 hz then the first harmonic and isn't that the frequency you use with 2*L to determine v?
 
Or do you not need to find the v?

Only the f1 fundamental frequency?
 
i already found v. i just don't understand the fundamental frequency part.
 
nn3568 said:
i already found v. i just don't understand the fundamental frequency part.

8 antinodes means 8th harmonic = 8 times the fundamental frequency (first harmonic).
 
Here's a link:
http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/GBSSCI/PHYS/Class/sound/u11l4d.html
 
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