Game Show Theory: Should You Switch Choices?

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The discussion revolves around the Monty Hall problem, a probability puzzle involving a game show scenario where a contestant must decide whether to switch their choice of doors after one door is revealed to contain a goat. Participants explore the implications of the host's knowledge and the probabilities associated with switching versus staying with the initial choice.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that switching doors increases the contestant's chances of winning due to the host's knowledge of where the prize is located.
  • One participant describes the reasoning behind the probabilities, stating that if the contestant initially chooses the door with the car, they win by not switching, but if they choose a door with a goat, they win by switching, leading to a 2/3 chance of winning if they switch.
  • Another participant questions the scenario by proposing a variation where the host does not know where the car is and randomly opens a door, asking if switching would still be advantageous in that case.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the advantages of switching choices, with some supporting the idea that switching is beneficial due to the host's knowledge, while others raise questions about alternative scenarios that could affect the outcome. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the host's knowledge on the decision to switch.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on the host's knowledge and the assumptions made about the initial conditions of the game. There are unresolved aspects regarding how the probabilities would change if the host's actions were different.

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So I would imagine everyone has heard of the game show theory as it has been in various tv/movies including 21 and numb3rs.

But to refresh your mind.

Suppose you're on a game show, and you're given the choice of three doors: Behind one door is a car; behind the others, goats. You pick a door, say No. 1 [but the door is not opened], and the host, who knows what's behind the doors, opens another door, say No. 3, which has a goat. He then says to you, "Do you want to pick door No. 2?" Is it to your advantage to switch your choice?

I have heard some people say yes you do have an advantage because you start with a 1/3 chance and when the card is flipped you have double the chance of winning if you swap choices.

But I have heard other people argue the other way.

Just curious to hear what you all have to say about it.
 
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What's confusing about this is that most probability problems assume no "prior knowledge". However, the MC (how many of us remember Monty Hall?) does know which door the grand prize is behind. He intentionally opens only the door a does not show the prize. That gives the contestant the chance to use the MC's knowledge to increase his chances.

Since we can label the doors any way we wish, we can, without loss of generality, assume the prize is behind door A and that the other two doors are labeled B and C. Without the knowledge of which door the prize is behind, to the contestant, "a-priori", the prize is equally likely to be behind any door- choosing any door, you have a 1/3 chance of being right.

Now let's look at cases:
The contestant initially chooses door A. That is the door the prize is behind so the MC can open either remaining door. If the contestant does NOT change, he wins. If he does change, he loses.

The contestant initially chooses door B. The MC, knowing the prize is behind door A, opens door C. Now if the contestant changes to A, he wins, if he does not change he loses.

The contestant initially chooses door C. The MC, knowing the prize is behind door A, opens door B. Now, if the contestant changes to A, he wins, if he does not change, he loses.

Those three cases are equally likely. In two cases, by changing the contestant wins. In only one does he win by not changing. He increases his chance of winning by changing- in effect using the MC's "inside" knowledge to increase his chances.
 
What's confusing about this is that most probability problems assume no "prior knowledge". However, the MC (how many of us remember Monty Hall?) does know which door the grand prize is behind. He intentionally opens only the door a does not show the prize. That gives the contestant the chance to use the MC's knowledge to increase his chances.

Since we can label the doors any way we wish, we can, without loss of generality, assume the prize is behind door A and that the other two doors are labeled B and C. Without the knowledge of which door the prize is behind, to the contestant, "a-priori", the prize is equally likely to be behind any door- choosing any door, you have a 1/3 chance of being right.

Now let's look at cases:
The contestant initially chooses door A. That is the door the prize is behind so the MC can open either remaining door. If the contestant does NOT change, he wins. If he does change, he loses.

The contestant initially chooses door B. The MC, knowing the prize is behind door A, opens door C. Now if the contestant changes to A, he wins, if he does not change he loses.

The contestant initially chooses door C. The MC, knowing the prize is behind door A, opens door B. Now, if the contestant changes to A, he wins, if he does not change, he loses.

Those three cases are equally likely. In two cases, by changing the contestant wins. In only one does he win by not changing. He increases his chance of winning by changing- in effect using the MC's "inside" knowledge to increase his chances.

By the way, many years ago, long before Marilyn Savant made it famous, I saw this problem as an exercise in the first chapter of an introductory probability text!
 
So this works because the game show host knows where it is.
If the game show host did not know where it was and randomly picked a goat leaving the car and the second goat remaining, would it still be in your favor to change?
 

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