Gas or liquid to adsorb an explosion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of using a gas or liquid with high activation energy to absorb or control explosions, particularly in mining or industrial contexts. Participants explore the plausibility of this idea as a thought experiment, considering its potential applications and limitations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes the idea of discovering a gas or liquid with very high activation energy to absorb explosions, suggesting potential applications in mining and industrial safety.
  • Another participant questions the fate of the energy released during an explosion, seeking clarification on how it would be managed or redirected.
  • A different viewpoint argues that controlled explosions are inherently limited by the explosive material itself, stating that no chemical reactions can effectively reduce the shockwave produced by an explosion.
  • Further discussion raises the idea of using materials that convert mechanical energy from shockwaves into heat, aiming to minimize the transmission of shockwaves through those materials.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and effectiveness of using high activation energy materials to control explosions. There is no consensus on the proposed concept, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations regarding the understanding of energy transfer during explosions and the effectiveness of various materials in shockwave management. These aspects remain open for further exploration.

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Obviously we don't have the technology to make this work now but I would like to know how plausible this is as a concept/thought experiment. Basically the idea is to discover a gas or liquid with a very high activation energy (for some reaction) so that it can absorb an explosion or control a fire. This is different than CO2, which I think just deprives fire of O2. I was thinking this could be useful if you're trying to mine some tunnel but you don't want the explosion to reach certain places. you could release the gas in those areas and coat the walls in the liquid and then immediately detonate the TNT before the gas disperses too much. Or you could fill balloons with the gas as a safety measure next to dangerous equipment in some fertilizer factory or something. That way if something explodes it will pop the balloons, which could make the explosion smaller.
If anybody has any ideas to add or wants to rain on my parade
 
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patrickbotros said:
very high activation energy (for some reaction) so
... and, that energy then goes where?
 
Controlled explosions are limited to the explosive material already - all the damage around is done by the energy released from the explosive material itself, and no relevant chemical reactions happen outside. There is nothing to improve - there are no chemical reactions that would reduce a shockwave. You can use physical shock absorbers, but "just let it spread out" is usually a good approach.
 
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... and, that energy then goes where?
Heat. What types of materials are best in converting mechanical energy of shockwave into heat and transmit as little as possible of the shockwave through the material?
 

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