Gate source voltage and gate cathode voltage

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the differences between gate source voltage and gate cathode voltage in the context of thyristors and their trigger circuits. Participants seek clarification on the significance and distinctions of these terms as presented in their study materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the terms gate source voltage and gate cathode voltage, asking for help in understanding their differences and significance.
  • Another participant requests a schematic to better understand the context of the discussion.
  • A participant notes that the voltage at the thyristor's gate is equal to Ug = Es * Ig * Rs, indicating that if Rs = 0 Ohm, then Es = Ug.
  • One contributor suggests that the distinction may be more about grammar and vocabulary rather than electronics, arguing that "gate source" could be a misinterpretation of "gate supply" and that the term 'source' is not typically used in the context of thyristors.
  • Another participant agrees with the previous viewpoint, explaining that the gate voltage observed is usually the gate-to-cathode voltage and that it originates from a voltage source separated from the gate by a resistor network or other components.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the definitions and significance of gate source voltage and gate cathode voltage, with multiple interpretations and viewpoints presented by participants.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential ambiguities in terminology and the need for clarity in the context of thyristor operation, particularly regarding the use of the term 'source' in relation to gate voltage.

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I am studying thyrisors right now. I am really struck at trigger circuit . The book shows gate source voltage and gate chathode voltage as two different things. I fail to understand the difference and significance of them. Please help me out .
 
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parichay said:
I am studying thyrisors right now. I am really struck at trigger circuit . The book shows gate source voltage and gate chathode voltage as two different things. I fail to understand the difference and significance of them. Please help me out .
Hi parichay. http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

Can you provide a jpeg of the schematic and associated text where these are discussed?
 
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Notice that the gate is not directly connect to Es trigger voltage source.
Voltage at thyristors gate is equal to Ug = Es * Ig*Rs. And only if Rs = 0 Ohm then Es = Ug
 
The book shows gate source voltage and gate chathode voltage as two different things.

i think it's a question of grammar and vocabulary, not one of electronics.

Notice there's no hyphen in "gate source" inferring that's his description of the circle labelled Es, which i'd have called "gate supply" .
Gate-source is such a common phrase in FET literature it's an easy mistake to make.

Thyristors have a terminal called cathode but not one called source .
'Source' is almost synonymous with 'supply', and both could be either noun or verb,
so i think "gate source" was just a poor if excusably natural choice of wording.

My 2cents and probably overpriced at that.

old jim
 
Always good value, Jim.
 
parichay said:
I am studying thyrisors right now. I am really struck at trigger circuit . The book shows gate source voltage and gate chathode voltage as two different things. I fail to understand the difference and significance of them. Please help me out .
I agree with Jim. [PLAIN]http://physicsforums.bernhardtmediall.netdna-cdn.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

Gate voltage is what you see on the gate terminal, usually it's the gate-to-cathode voltage. The origin of this is typically a voltage source separated from the gate by a resistor network, or a pulse transformer, or opto-isolator, etc., and it's this voltage source that your textbook refers to as the origin or source of the gate drive.
 
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