Gauss's Law and Flux: True or False?

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The discussion revolves around Gauss's Law and electric flux, specifically addressing questions about the net flux through closed surfaces surrounding dipoles and the implications of zero net flux. Participants are exploring concepts related to electric dipoles and equipotential lines.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants are questioning the relationship between charge and flux, particularly in the context of dipoles. There is uncertainty about the nature of dipoles and how to determine the total charge (Q) associated with them. Some participants are also exploring the properties of equipotential lines and their classification as vectors.

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The discussion is ongoing with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have offered insights into the nature of dipoles and the implications of zero net flux, while others seek clarification on the vector nature of equipotential lines. Guidance has been provided in the form of hints regarding the directionality of equipotential lines.

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There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the definitions and properties of dipoles and equipotential lines, with participants expressing confusion about these concepts. The original poster mentions these questions are for an upcoming test, indicating a time constraint and the need for deeper understanding.

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Ok guys, these are just questions from our book(like critical thinking type)...she said to be able to understand these, for the upcoming test. I'm not sure I fully understand them(if at all).

1. If a closed surface surrounds a dipole, the net flux through the surface is zero. True or False?


2. If the net flux through a closed surface is zero, then there can be no charge or charges within that surface. True or False?


I think the equation to find flux is Gauss's Law, which says E=Q(enclosed)/E(knot). With Q being a negative number(dipole), then I'd say the flux can't be zero.

Along with what I just said, then if Q=0, then there can not be any flux within that surface...right?

Thanks guys!
Brad

Oh, one more question. Are Equipotential lines vectors? I'm thinking they are, but need to know to figure a question.
 
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Bradracer18 said:
With Q being a negative number(dipole), then I'd say the flux can't be zero.
What makes you think Q (total charge?) is negative for a dipole?
 
Well I'm not sure, I guess that is just what I thought. I don't really understand the whole dipole thing(even in chemistry I struggled). Isn't it a negative charge, that will go towards a positive charge? Or, how do I figure Q for the dipole?
 
An electric dipole consists of two opposite charges with a separation between them; the net charge is zero.
 
So then with that information, I'd say that Q=0, thus the flux is 0. So, it is true.

For the second one, if a dipole is considered a charge...then I'd say it is false.

Also Doc Al...can you help me with the vector question, so I can start working on it...are those equipotential lines vectors? I can't find it anywhere in my book that says they are(which might mean they aren't), but I was thinking they were for some reason.

Thank you again!
 
Bradracer18 said:
So then with that information, I'd say that Q=0, thus the flux is 0. So, it is true.

For the second one, if a dipole is considered a charge...then I'd say it is false.
Both correct.

...can you help me with the vector question, so I can start working on it...are those equipotential lines vectors?
Hint: Does an equipotential line (surface, actually) have a direction?
 
No I don't think they do actually have a direction, as far as I know. They aren't like field lines which go from + to -. I think basically they just run perpendicular to field lines, in no general direction. So, no they aren't vectors then.
 
You are correct.
 
Thanks a lot Doc...I appreciate every bit of it!
 

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