General Form of equation for a Circle

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The discussion focuses on deriving the radius of a circle from its general equation, x^2 + y^2 + ax + by + c = 0. The method involves completing the square to transform the equation into a standard form, leading to the formula r = sqrt((a/2)^2 + (b/2)^2 - c. Another participant confirms this approach and provides an alternative derivation using the standard circle equation, demonstrating that both methods yield the same result for the radius. This confirms the validity of the procedure for finding the radius from the general form of a circle's equation.
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I was helping my girlfriend earlier with some HW and now I don't have her text (since she is not here) but I have a question regarding circles.
I did not cover a lot of this material in precalc. and only recall the Standard Form of an equation: x^2+y^2=r^2.

So my question is: if given the equation in General Form, and I wish to know the radius, is the following procedure (completing the square) correct?

Given x^2+y^2+ax+by+c=0

x^2+ax+y^2+by+c=o
x^2+ax+(a/2)^2+y^2+by+(b/2)^2+c=(a/2)^2+(b/2)^2
(x+a/2)^2+(y+b/2)^2=(a/2)^2+(b/2)^2-c

so r=sqrt((a/2)^2+(b/2)^2-c)

is this correct?
thanks,
Casey
 
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Yep, it is correct - and a nice way to do it too.

Another way to derive this is as follows: the equation of a circle with radius r and center point (x_0, y_0) is (x - x_0)^2 + (y - y_0)^2 = r^2. Working out the brackets gives x^2 - 2 x_0 x + x_0^2 + y^2 - 2 y_0 y + y_0^2 - r^2 = 0. Now if we compare to your formula x^2 + y^2 + a x + b y + c = 0 we read off that
a = -2 x_0, b = 2 y_0, c = x_0^2 + y_0^2 - r^2
whence solving for r gives
r^2 = x_0^2 + y_0^2 - c and you get the same formula (you can substitute -a/2 for x_0 and drop the minus since it's squared anyway, and similarly for -b/2).
 
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