Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the exploration of modifications to the Proca Lagrangian in the context of superconductivity, particularly focusing on the laws of motion for photons within a superconductor and the implications of the Meissner effect. Participants are seeking to identify an additional operator to include in the Proca Lagrangian and how this relates to the electromagnetic gauge symmetry and the Higgs mechanism.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
- Mathematical reasoning
Main Points Raised
- One participant is working on a project to find an extra operator to include in the Proca Lagrangian, aiming to derive the laws of motion for photons using the Euler-Lagrange equation.
- Another participant suggests that the electromagnetic gauge symmetry is "Higgsed" in superconductors, leading to a mass for the photon via the Anderson-Higgs mechanism, and references the historical context of this discovery.
- Some participants express uncertainty about the connection between superconductivity and the modifications to the Lagrangian, questioning the purpose of the additional term sought by the original poster.
- References to external sources, including works by Weinberg and the Feynman Lectures, are provided to assist in understanding the relativistic formulation of superconductivity and the derivation of the laws of motion.
- There is a suggestion that the Proca Lagrangian already contains an extra term compared to the Maxwell Lagrangian, leading to confusion about the need for further modifications.
- Participants discuss the need to clarify the characteristics being sought for the photons in a superconductor and the approach to modifying the Proca Lagrangian.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the relevance of superconductivity to the modifications of the Proca Lagrangian, and there is no consensus on the specific characteristics or additional terms that should be included. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to find the extra operator and its implications.
Contextual Notes
There are limitations in understanding the exact purpose of the additional operator and how it relates to the laws of motion for photons in superconductors. The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with the theoretical background and the specific goals of the project.