General relativity - Using Ricc and Weyl tensor to find the area

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The discussion focuses on calculating the second derivative of the area of a circle defined by the metric $$ds^2 = -dt^2 + dx^2 + 2a^2(t)dxdy + dy^2 + dz^2$$ using the Ricci tensor, and the second derivative of the ratio of the diagonals $$D_1$$ and $$D_2$$ expressed via the Weyl tensor. The user has successfully completed the first part of the problem and seeks assistance with the second part, specifically how to apply the geodesic deviation equation to derive the necessary expressions for $$D_1$$ and $$D_2$$.

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General relaivity, Geodesic equation
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I have the following question to solve:Use the metric:$$ds^2 = -dt^2 +dx^2 +2a^2(t)dxdy + dy^2 +dz^2$$

Test bodies are arranged in a circle on the metric at rest at ##t=0##.
The circle define as $$x^2 +y^2 \leq R^2$$

The bodies start to move on geodesic when we have $$a(0)=0$$

a. we have to calculate the second derivative of the area of the circle $$S = \int{\sqrt{g^(2)}dxdy}$$ respected to time and express your answer using the Ricci tensor.

b. calculate the second derivative respected to time of the ratio of the diagonals $$D_1, D_2$$ and express it using Weyl tensor.

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I have already solved section a and now I would like to get some help/ideas how can I solve section b. I had an idea using the geodesic deviation equation but I am not sure how can I use it in here.

Thanks for the ones who will try to help me :)
 
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I observe for ##D_1##
dl^2=2(1+a^2)dx^2
and for ##D_2##
dl^2=2(1-a^2)dx^2
 

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