Geometric Series: Find Sum of Infinity - 9-32-n

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The discussion revolves around finding the sum of an infinite geometric series given the sum of the first n terms as 9-32-n. Participants explore whether the series is geometric and how to apply relevant formulas to determine the sum of infinity.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the series is geometric and suggests a possible interpretation of the terms as $9 - 3^{2-n}$.
  • Another participant proposes using the limit of the sum of the first n terms to find the sum of infinity, stating that $S_{\infty}=\lim_{n\to\infty}S_n$.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the method of limits, indicating it has not been covered in their coursework.
  • A later reply discusses the formula for the sum of an infinite geometric series, suggesting that it could be applied if the series is confirmed to be geometric.
  • One participant provides a detailed derivation of the finite geometric series and its transition to the infinite case, noting conditions under which the sum exists.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the series is geometric or how to proceed with finding the sum of infinity. There are multiple competing views and methods discussed.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the nature of the series and the applicability of the geometric series formula. The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with the concepts involved.

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Given that the sum of the first n terms of series, s, is 9-32-n

Find the sum of infinity of s.

Do I use the formula S\infty = \frac{a}{1-r}?
 
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ChelseaL said:
Given that the sum of the first n terms of series, s, is 9-32-n

Find the sum of infinity of s.

Do I use the formula S\infty = \frac{a}{1-r}?

I can't tell what your geometric terms are. Are they supposed to be $9 - 3^{2-n}\;for\;n\in \mathbb{N}$? Are you SURE that's a geometric sequence?
 
I'm not exactly sure what the topic is, but this is the part before it.
https://mathhelpboards.com/discrete-mathematics-set-theory-logic-15/geometric-series-24025.html
 
What you can do is:

$$S_{\infty}=\lim_{n\to\infty}S_n$$
 
How do I work it out from there?
 
ChelseaL said:
How do I work it out from there?

Have you worked with limits before?
 
This is my first time hearing this term. I don't think my lecturer expects us to use that method since we never covered it in class.
 
ChelseaL said:
This is my first time hearing this term. I don't think my lecturer expects us to use that method since we never covered it in class.

Okay, then the formula you first cited works in this case:

$$S_{\infty}=\sum_{k=0}^{\infty}a_n=\frac{a}{1-r}$$

It is my understanding your sum is:

$$\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}a_n$$

In this case, you would need to write:

$$S_{\infty}=\frac{a}{1-r}-a=\frac{ar}{1-r}$$
 
Consider the finite geometric series [math]S= a+ at+ at^2+ at^3+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ at^n[/math]. Subtract a from both sides: [math]S- a=at+ at^2+ at^3+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ at^n[/math]. Factor "t" out of the right side: [math]S- a= t(a+ at+ at^2+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ at^{n- 1})[/math]. The sum on the right is almost the same as the original sum- it is only missing the "[math]at^n[/math]" term. Add and subtract [math]at^n[/math] inside the parentheses:
[math]S- a= t(a+ at+ at^2+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ at^{n- 1}+ at^n- at^n)= t(a+ at+ at^2+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ at^{n- 1}+ at^n)- at^{n+1}= tS- at^{n+1}[/math]

Add [math]at^{n+1}[/math] to both sides:
[math]S- a+ at^{n+ 1}= tS[/math]
[math]S- tS= (1- t)S= a- at^{n+1}= a(1- t^{n+1})[/math]
Finally, divide both sides by 1- t:
[math]S= \frac{a(1- t^{n+1})}{1- t}[/math]

The sum of the infinite series, [math]\sum_{n=0}^\infty at^n[/math] is the limit of that as n goes to infinity. If [math]t\ge 1[/math], that limit, so that sum, does not exist. If [math]t<1[/math], [math]t^{n+ 1}[/math] goes to 0 so
[math]\sum_{n=0}^\infty at^n= \frac{a}{1- t}[/math].
 

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