Giving a jump start to a car - how does the circuit become complete?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the process of jump-starting a car, specifically focusing on the electrical circuit involved, the grounding methods, and the potential hazards associated with the procedure. Participants explore theoretical scenarios, practical advice, and safety considerations related to connecting multiple batteries.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether connecting the negative of a jump battery to the body of a car creates a separate circuit and how current flows back to the original battery.
  • Others explain that the car's frame and engine block typically serve as a common ground for the electrical system.
  • A suggestion is made to connect the jump battery directly across the dead battery to ensure a good connection, while also noting the importance of avoiding sparks near the battery due to flammable gases.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for hydrogen gas generation during the jump-starting process and the conditions under which an explosion could occur.
  • Participants discuss the implications of disconnecting batteries while engines are running, with some advocating for this method to prevent voltage spikes that could damage electrical systems.
  • There is speculation about the conditions that could lead to electrolysis within a battery, potentially causing internal pressure buildup and failure.
  • Mathematical reasoning is presented regarding the internal resistance of batteries and the current flow during the charging process, with questions about the thresholds for battery failure and the effects of defective cells.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the safety and effectiveness of various jump-starting methods, with no clear consensus on the best practices or the risks involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of battery behavior and safety precautions.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about battery conditions, the effectiveness of grounding methods, and the variability in battery performance based on individual circumstances. The discussion also highlights the complexity of electrical interactions during the jump-starting process.

  • #61
Shut off the good car before boosting.
 
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essenmein said:
(don't try this at home... or something)
I've done it.
 

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