Globular cluster ejected from M87

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The discussion revolves around the globular cluster known as High Velocity Globular Cluster One (HVGC-1), which is noted for being ejected from the vicinity of the massive black hole in M87. Participants explore the implications of this ejection, the methods used to locate HVGC-1, and the uncertainties surrounding the mechanisms behind its escape from M87 and the Virgo cluster.

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Main Points Raised

  • HVGC-1 is identified as the first globular cluster ejected due to the interaction of two massive black holes.
  • Participants discuss the methods for locating HVGC-1 using astronomical tools, including specific coordinates and resources from Galaxy Zoo.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the explanation for why HVGC-1 is escaping M87 and the Virgo cluster, with no definitive consensus on the mechanisms involved.
  • One participant suggests that HVGC-1 may have been ejected by M87's black hole during a time when it was part of a binary system.
  • A correction is noted regarding the alternate name of HVGC-1, where one participant points out a typographical error in the designation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty about the reasons for the ejection of HVGC-1, and multiple competing hypotheses are presented without a clear consensus on the matter.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding the dynamics of black hole interactions and the specific conditions leading to the ejection of globular clusters, which remain unresolved.

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In preparing a post for the globular cluster thread, I found reference to "High Velocity Globular Cluster One, or HVGC-1. This is the first globular cluster discovered to have been ejected by the interaction of two massive black holes.
http://hvgc-1/
A Globular Cluster Toward M87 with a Radial Velocity < -1000 km/s: The First Hypervelocity Cluster

I couldn't find a real image of HCGC-1 and M87 together, so I went and got one, and wanted to share it with all of you..

The location of HCGC-1 is RA 187.72791°, DEC +12.68295°.
Using the tools provided by Galaxy Zoo, and specifically at http://skyserver.sdss.org/dr12/en/tools/chart/navi.aspx
plug in the coordinates and you get the hit.
Notice the small image to the right. Click on "Explore" which is underneath it.
Then look at the far left column and click on "SIMBAD". Here you will see that this is the globular cluster we are after, known by its other name, H74808.
Use the back arrow key (top left) and then click on the image.
You can scale out by clicking on the "minus" sign, and soon you bring M87 into the picture.

And here it is. The yellow arrow points to M87's famous jet.
M87 and HVGC-1.jpg


The explanation for why the globular cluster is escaping M87, and even the Virgo cluster, is not for sure.

In any case, this image shows how far away HVGC-1 is from M87. And we can get this image using tools from the Galaxy Zoo. I hope you like it!
 
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liometopum said:
The explanation for why the globular cluster is escaping M87, and even the Virgo cluster, is not for sure.
Any ideas on this?
 
liometopum said:
In preparing a post for the globular cluster thread, I found reference to "High Velocity Globular Cluster One, or HVGC-1. This is the first globular cluster discovered to have been ejected by the interaction of two massive black holes.
http://hvgc-1/
A Globular Cluster Toward M87 with a Radial Velocity < -1000 km/s: The First Hypervelocity Cluster

I couldn't find a real image of HCGC-1 and M87 together, so I went and got one, and wanted to share it with all of you..

The location of HCGC-1 is RA 187.72791°, DEC +12.68295°.
Using the tools provided by Galaxy Zoo, and specifically at http://skyserver.sdss.org/dr12/en/tools/chart/navi.aspx
plug in the coordinates and you get the hit.
Notice the small image to the right. Click on "Explore" which is underneath it.
Then look at the far left column and click on "SIMBAD". Here you will see that this is the globular cluster we are after, known by its other name, H74808.
Use the back arrow key (top left) and then click on the image.
You can scale out by clicking on the "minus" sign, and soon you bring M87 into the picture.

And here it is. The yellow arrow points to M87's famous jet.View attachment 79639

The explanation for why the globular cluster is escaping M87, and even the Virgo cluster, is not for sure.

In any case, this image shows how far away HVGC-1 is from M87. And we can get this image using tools from the Galaxy Zoo. I hope you like it!
thanks for this terrific post. I saw the that you wrote HVGC-1's other name as H74808 it shouldve been H70848. thanks again
 
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