Good Beginner's General Relativity Books?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around recommendations for beginner-level books on General Relativity (GR), with an emphasis on texts that minimize mathematical complexity and provide clear explanations. Participants explore various resources and the prerequisites necessary for understanding GR, including the importance of Special Relativity (SR).

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks beginner-friendly books on GR with low math requirements.
  • Another participant notes that GR is typically studied at a higher educational level and suggests assessing the inquirer’s background in physics and mathematics.
  • Several participants recommend starting with SR to grasp the foundational concepts before tackling GR.
  • Books mentioned include "Relativity from A to B" by Geroch, "Flat and Curved Space-Times" by Ellis and Williams, and "A Journey into Gravity and Spacetime" by Wheeler.
  • Some participants emphasize that popular science books can provide an overview but lack the depth needed for true understanding.
  • One participant mentions "General Relativity and Cosmology: A First Encounter" by R. J. Adler as a suitable text, noting its minimal necessary math.
  • Another participant discusses the distinction between different authors named Ronald Adler and clarifies potential confusion regarding their works.
  • One participant suggests a "for dummies" article on SR as a resource, expressing surprise that it hasn't been expanded into a book.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the necessity of understanding Special Relativity before approaching General Relativity. However, there are multiple competing views regarding the best resources and the appropriate level of mathematical rigor for beginners.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the limitations of popular science books in conveying a comprehensive understanding of GR, indicating that a solid grasp of SR is essential before progressing to GR. There is also mention of varying levels of complexity in the recommended texts.

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I want to learn General Relativity so I am looking for a good beginners book with low amounts of math and clear explanations. Any suggestions?
 
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GR is typically a last-level education in university standard physics, so we can only ask what your background in physical theories and mathematics is.
Until I know something, try some popularization books by the late Stephen Hawking.
 
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Geroch - "Relativity from A to B"
 
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BadgerBadger92 said:
I want to learn General Relativity so I am looking for a good beginners book with low amounts of math and clear explanations. Any suggestions?
I suggest you need to focus on SR and first try to understand the basic ideas of spacetime. There's no point in looking at GR until you have to some extent mastered SR.

You can, of course, read popular science books on GR and they will give you a flavour of the subject, but they can never give an understanding of the subject. In particular, without mathematics you cannot get more than a flavour of the physics.

For SR you could try Morin, the first chapter of which is free:

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/david-morin/files/relativity_chap_1.pdf
 
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Flat and Curved Space-Times ( Second edition ) - GFR Ellis and Ruth Williams.
A short course in General Relativity ( Third edition ) - James Foster and David Nightingale.

These can be readable only if you are familiar with Special relativity as others advised.
 
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You have a few threads on "I'd likento learn advanced physics, only without the foundations or math". This is unlikely to work.
 
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John Wheeler, A Journey into Gravity and Spacetime
 
I like Landau&Lifshitz vol. 2. It provides the minimal necessary math (Ricci calculus using holonomous bases for given coordinates) and uses without much ado Hamilton's principle.

A bit more detailed an written for undergrads is

R. J. Adler, General Relativity and Cosmology: A First Encounter, Springer Nature Switzerland, Cham (2021),
https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-030-61574-1
 
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vanhees71 said:
R. J. Adler, General Relativity and Cosmology: A First Encounter, Springer Nature Switzerland, Cham (2021)
Not the same Adler as in Adler Bazin Schiffer. Just sayin'.
 
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Interesting. How do you know? Both authors' first name is Ronald... BTW this older book is also very good, but definitely more at the graduate level:

R. Adler, M. Bazin and M. Schiffer, Introduction to general
relativity, McGraw-Hill Inc., New York, 2 edn. (1975).
 
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vanhees71 said:
Interesting. How do you know? Both authors' first name is Ronald... BTW this older book is also very good, but definitely more at the graduate level:

R. Adler, M. Bazin and M. Schiffer, Introduction to general
relativity, McGraw-Hill Inc., New York, 2 edn. (1975).
Actually, I was wrong. It's the same Adler. The Amazon page of the new book says "...He is the co-author of a classic textbook on general relativity and has devoted over half a century to teaching physics students at a number of universities. ..."

I was misled by "J" and by a big time gap.
 
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BadgerBadger92 said:
I want to learn General Relativity so I am looking for a good beginners book with low amounts of math and clear explanations. Any suggestions?
I agree with others that you should get an understanding of Special Relativity first, and then move on to General Relativity.

For Special Relativity, try this "for dummies" article: https://www.dummies.com/article/aca...e/physics/einsteins-special-relativity-193336
I don't konw why the "for dummies" publisher doesn't expand this topic into a book.
 

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