Gravitation (Potential Energy)

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To determine how far a particle will travel from an asteroid's surface with a radial speed of 1000 m/s, the gravitational potential energy must equal the initial kinetic energy. The asteroid's radius is 565,000 m, and gravitational acceleration is 2.7 m/s², allowing for the calculation of the asteroid's mass using the formula g = GM/R². The conservation of energy principle states that the initial energy (kinetic plus potential) must equal the final energy at the highest point, where kinetic energy becomes zero and potential energy is maximized. A common mistake is to confuse the radius from the center of the asteroid with the distance from the surface, which leads to incorrect calculations. The correct approach involves using the full gravitational potential formula and adjusting the radius accordingly to find the accurate distance from the surface.
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Homework Statement


How far from the surface will a particle go if it leaves the asteroid's surface with a radial speed of 1000 m/s?

The radius of the asteroid is 565000 m, and the gravitational acceleration near the surface is 2.7 m/s^2


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The Attempt at a Solution


I would have thought I could just see how much energy a particle of mass m has moving at 1000 m/s, and then see what radius r would be necessary to produce the gravitation potential energy of the asteroid-particle system equal to the initial kinetic energy. When I do this, solving for r gives me a very small number.
 
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Oijl said:

Homework Statement


How far from the surface will a particle go if it leaves the asteroid's surface with a radial speed of 1000 m/s?

The radius of the asteroid is 565000 m, and the gravitational acceleration near the surface is 2.7 m/s^2

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


I would have thought I could just see how much energy a particle of mass m has moving at 1000 m/s, and then see what radius r would be necessary to produce the gravitation potential energy of the asteroid-particle system equal to the initial kinetic energy. When I do this, solving for r gives me a very small number.
Note that the gravitation field is only valid near the surface of the asteroid. When you move away from the surface you need to use the full gravitational potential formula,

U = \frac{GM}{r}
 
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I know; isn't gravitational potential energy described by

U = -(GMm)/r ?

So can't I say that plus (1/2)mv^2 equals zero, and solve for r? When I do that, I get 1158815 meters, but that's not the right answer.
 
Hi,
"The radius of the asteroid is 565000 m, and the gravitational acceleration near the surface is 2.7 m/s^2"
With this information You can find the mass of the asteroid.
F=mg , F=GMm/R^2 --> g=GM/R^2 while g=2.7,R=565000.and G=6.67*10^-11 You can find M.

now, the initial energy of the body is the kinetic energy+potential energy, when the potential energy as stated in the post above is U=-GMm/R.
What happens in the highest point?
The body's kinetic energy=0 and he has potential energy equal to -GMm/R+h(max).
by the energy conservation------> Ei=Ef while i=initial and f=final.
note:the little m, aka the mass of particle goes away.
note 2:sometimes i wrote body instead of particle.
Good luck! Tell me if You get the wrong answer
note 3: I've seen Your message and You wrote that Ke+Up=0,seems logical, but I don't think its right...well what is the right answer?
 
Oijl said:
I know; isn't gravitational potential energy described by

U = -(GMm)/r ?

So can't I say that plus (1/2)mv^2 equals zero, and solve for r? When I do that, I get 1158815 meters, but that's not the right answer.
The question asks for the distance from the surface, whereas r is the distance from the centre of the asteroid.
 
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