Gravitational Potential due to spherical shell

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The discussion focuses on determining the gravitational potential inside and outside a spherical shell with inner radius b and outer radius a. The gravitational field is derived for three regions: outside the shell (R > a), within the shell (b < R < a), and inside the shell (R < b), with specific equations provided for each case. The key challenge is establishing the correct limits of integration for calculating the gravitational potential, φ. It is clarified that the relation between gravitational field g and potential φ in spherical symmetry is given by g = -dφ/dr, and the potential is typically referenced from infinity. Understanding the enclosed mass in each region aids in determining the limits for integration.
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Homework Statement


What is the gravitational potential both inside and outside a spherical shell of inner radius b and outer radius a?

Homework Equations


φ = ∫g⋅da = -4πGMencl
g = d∅/dr in the r hat direction

The Attempt at a Solution


I can get as far as getting the gravitational field for the three parts of the shell but I am not really sure how to determine the limits of integration in order to get the potentials

for (R > a) g*4πR2= -4πG*(4/3*π(a3-b3)*ρ)
then ∅ = ∫[G*(4/3*π(a3-b3)*ρ)]/R2 dr

for (b< R < a) g*4πR2= -4πG*(4/3*π(R3-b3)*ρ)
g = 4/3*πρG*(b3/R2 - R)
∅ = ∫-[4/3*πρG*(b3/R2 - R)] dr

for (R < b) g = 0 because there is no enclosed mass
and ∅ = constant the constant being determined from the integration limits
 
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Make 3 drawings, one for each of the three regions. Note that the left side of the equation is always 4πr2g where r is the radius of the sphere that encloses whatever mass. What about the right side? What is an expression for Mencl in each of the 3 regions? That should give you a clue about the limits of integration.
 
kuruman said:
Make 3 drawings, one for each of the three regions. Note that the left side of the equation is always 4πr2g where r is the radius of the sphere that encloses whatever mass. What about the right side? What is an expression for Mencl in each of the 3 regions? That should give you a clue about the limits of integration.
The expressions for the enclosed mass in each region is in my original post. So I am still not sure how to determine the limits of integration
 
OK, I now see what you mean by limits of integration. You got Mencl correctly. The problem is with the first equation, φ = ∫g⋅da. I would use r instead of a because a is defined here. The relation between g and φ in spherical symmetry is ##g = -\frac{\partial \phi}{\partial r}## so that ##\phi(r) = - \int_{ref}^r g(r) ~dr##. Usually, the lower limit of integration (the reference of potential) is infinity. I hope this clarifies what you need to do.
 
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