Gravitational Wave Communication System

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the feasibility of transmitting information through gravitational waves, considering both theoretical and practical aspects of such a communication system. Participants examine the potential challenges and implications of using gravitational waves as a medium for communication, drawing comparisons to existing radio communication technologies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that utilizing gravitational waves for communication could represent a significant advancement, particularly given the limitations of the electromagnetic spectrum.
  • There is a suggestion that the development of a gravitational wave communication system might parallel the evolution of radio communication technologies, involving components like gravitational oscillators and amplifiers.
  • One participant raises concerns about the practicality of transmitting information via gravitational waves, noting their extreme weakness and the challenges associated with generating sufficient gravitational fluctuations.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for vast amounts of mass to create detectable gravitational waves, referencing the significant masses involved in recent gravitational wave detections, such as merging black holes.
  • It is noted that gravitational waves travel at the speed of light, leading to questions about the efficiency of using them for communication compared to radio waves.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the feasibility of creating a system capable of generating strong enough gravitational waves for effective communication on Earth.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some intrigued by the potential of gravitational wave communication while others highlight significant practical challenges. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on the feasibility or practicality of such a system.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of current technology and the theoretical nature of the discussion, with unresolved questions about the necessary mass and energy requirements for generating gravitational waves suitable for communication.

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Would it be possible to transmit information through gravitational waves?

It must be a giant leap for mankind if we can utilize gravitational waves for communication since the electromagnetic spectrum for communication is a scarce resource and not much space is left.

I imagine that the development process of such gravitational wave communication system be somehow like what we have done for our sophisticated radio communication system, there will be gravitational oscillator, low noise gravitational amplifier,...etc, would it be a silly and naive ideas ?
 
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alan123hk said:
Would it be possible to transmit information through gravitational waves?

It must be a giant leap for mankind if we can utilize gravitational waves for communication since the electromagnetic spectrum for communication is a scarce resource and not much space is left.

I imagine that the development process of such gravitational wave communication system be somehow like what we have done for our sophisticated radio communication system, there will be gravitational oscillator, low noise gravitational amplifier,...etc, would it be a silly and naive ideas ?
in principal, of course. What practical issues do you see with the Tx side of a gravitational wave transmission?
 
Gravitational waves are extremely weak, it is literally the warping of space time continuum. Try communicating with water waves then try making waves in a 10 m thick steel wall.Theoretically we should be able to transmit information in both cases but the latter is obviously much more difficult.Infact Einstein was highly sceptical that we would ever detect gravitational waves due to there weakness.

Secondly, to transmit information using gravitational waves we need vast amounts of mass and then oscillate these masses up and down to cause fluctuations in space ( I presume) .I recently went to a lecture at UWA where they talked about the recent discoveries of gravitational waves , I was gobsmacked by the masses of the interacting objects.These were black holes , often rotating, joining up They have masses ranging from about 5 to several tens of solar masses.I don't know about you but we don't have that type of mass lying around.

Finally, gravitational waves travel at the speed of light ,according to GR, hence why waste all that time when I can send radio waves?
 
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berkeman said:
in principal, of course. What practical issues do you see with the Tx side of a gravitational wave transmission?

Dear Berkeman,
Yes, you are absolutely right.
It seems that extremely difficult or almost impossible to build a safe system which can create strong enough gravitational wave for communication on earth.
 
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