Gravitational waves adn Black holes frequency

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The discussion centers around the concept of gravitational quasinormal modes in the context of topological black holes, as presented in a specific paper. Participants explore the definitions, implications, and characteristics of these modes and their associated frequencies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Supakorn questions the meaning of gravitational quasinormal modes of topological black holes and whether these modes can be equated to the frequencies of the black holes.
  • Janm suggests that "topological" may imply a lack of perfect rotational symmetry in the black holes and interprets "quasinormal" as indicating a relationship to normal modes, but not definitively.
  • Janm notes that quasinormal modes can be scalar, vector, or tensor, and that the frequencies are complex numbers with negative imaginary parts, which is why they are termed quasinormal.
  • Janm expresses uncertainty about the concept of anti-de Sitter black holes and mentions the intriguing nature of the discussion.
  • Janm raises a question about the acceptance of the idea of massless black holes, indicating a personal stance of skepticism towards such claims.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of gravitational quasinormal modes and their relation to topological black holes. There is no consensus on the implications of massless black holes, with Janm indicating objections to the concept.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge various assumptions regarding the definitions of terms like "topological" and "quasinormal," and there are unresolved questions about the nature of anti-de Sitter black holes and the validity of massless black holes.

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I'm reading this paper "Exact Gravitational Quasinormal Frequencies of Topological Black Holes"

...By D. Birmingham and S. Mokhtari : http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0609028v2"
and now i confusing what are meaning of gravitational quasinormal modes of Topological Black holes?.

Can i say that gravitational quasinormal modes of Topological Black holes are the frequencies of Topological Black holes?

Best regards

Supakorn
 
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Hello Supakorn

You wrote:
supakorn said:
I'm reading this paper "Exact Gravitational Quasinormal Frequencies of Topological Black Holes"
what are gravitational quasinormal modes of Topological Black holes?
Can i say that gravitational quasinormal modes of Topological Black holes are the frequencies of Topological Black holes?
Supakorn

I have downloaded the file too and will look into it. Intuitively I would say topological means here that possibly the black holes do not have perfect rotational symmetry and the Schwartschild surface perhaps not perfectly round. The word mode perhaps changing from one to another. Quasinormal; normal being right angles to another and quasi meaning almost? I definitally say that the sentence is frequencies of gravitational modes and not of TBH.
I'll look into it and you will hear from me again. At forward thanks for pointing out the article.

Janm
 
OK read the paper and found:
modes are scalar, vector or tensor. The frequencies are complex number with negative imaginary part. That is why they are called quasinormal. The mode with frequencies with the smallest imaginary part is actual. I don't know what anti de Sitter black holes are...
In the tensor mode also is spoken of massles black holes...
All the way interesting...
Janm
 
thank you so much.
 
supakorn said:
thank you so much.
Hello suprakorn. So you make no objections whatsoever if somebody speaks of massless black holes? I made my objections even when people spoke of black holes! Had to wear a special mouthpiece for that!
greetings Janm
 

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