Grease supply to 4 seals with different pressure gradients

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The discussion revolves around the challenge of supplying hydraulic fluid to four piston cylinders that experience different pressure gradients while maintaining the same volumetric flow rate in each supply line. The context includes considerations for design efficiency and redundancy in the system.

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  • Some participants suggest using different tube diameters to regulate flow rates, while others propose using clamps on nylon tubing for fine adjustments.
  • One participant notes that the pressure gradients may change, which complicates the use of fixed diameters for the supply lines.
  • Concerns are raised about the redundancy of the system, particularly if one piston fails, leading to increased pressure in the remaining pistons.
  • A participant proposes a method of continuously spraying grease into the pistons at the lowest part of their cycle and recycling waste oil, questioning the feasibility of this approach.
  • Another participant inquires about the possibility of transitioning between different pressure levels (75 bar to 50 bar, and 50 bar to 25 bar) and whether this would require a serial or parallel connection of the supply lines.

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Participants express differing views on the best approach to achieve equal volumetric flow rates under varying pressure conditions. There is no consensus on a definitive solution, and multiple competing ideas are presented.

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Participants acknowledge the complexity of the system due to changing pressure gradients and the implications for flow regulation. The discussion highlights the need for further exploration of design options without resolving the technical challenges presented.

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Hey. We are a group of 4 students, working with a project.
The focus is directed towards the supply of hydraulic fluid. Four different piston cylinders subjected to different gradient pressures needs to be supplied with lubrication, but the volumeflow needs to be the same at each supplyline. We are not sure how to manage to achieve same volumeflow in each supplyline when the pressure gradients are different. We have been thinking about installing a pump for each supply line, but that will take to much place. Everithing needs to be minimized. Do you guys have some ideas? Answers will be much appreciated!
 

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Just use different tube diameters to regulate the flow rates? Even easier would be just to use clamps on nylon tubing so you can make fine adjustments to the flow.
 
Sorry, i forgot to say the gradient pressures may change. So different diameters on each supply line would not work. And if one of the pistons would break, the 3 remaining would work as redundancy and the pressure will increase over the 3 remaining pisotons. Is it easy to adjust the diameter using clamps on nylon tubing?
Thanks for answers
 
So you are pushing grease into the pistons at the lowest part of the piston cycle?

Can you place the pistons vertically and just spray them all continuously at the lowest piston point collect the waste oil and recycle it? (allowing the piston head to reach a freshly oiled part of the cylinder when it reaches the low point and carry the oil up the cylinder.)

It is easy to adjust the diameter of nylon tubing finely with a bar clamp which is opened and closed by screws either side of the tubing.
 
So you basiclly mean you can distribute the grease through one supply line, to the bottom seal, and then to the seal above, and so on? But how is it possible to go from 75 bar to 50 bar, 50 to 25? Will this be a serial connection instead of a parallell connection?
 

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