Green's Theorem well, sort of.

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the line integral \(\int_C y^2dx + x^2dy\) along a specified path \(C\), which is the boundary of the region between the curves \(y=x\) and \(y=\frac{x^2}{4}\). A key constraint is that Green's Theorem cannot be utilized in this evaluation.

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  • Participants explore breaking the curve \(C\) into two segments and attempt to set up the integrals for each segment. There are discussions about the correctness of the integrands and the factors involved in the calculations. Some participants question the direction of the curve and its impact on the integral's value.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts and identifying errors in the setup and calculations. There is acknowledgment of mistakes and clarifications regarding the direction of the curve, but no consensus has been reached on the final evaluation.

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Participants are working under the constraint of not using Green's Theorem, which adds complexity to the problem. There are indications of confusion regarding the setup of the integrals and the expected results based on the direction of the curve.

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Homework Statement


Evaluate \displaystyle \int_C y^2dx + x^2dy for the path C: the boundary of the region lying between the graphs of \displaystyle y=x and \displaystyle y=\frac{x^2}{4}.


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The catch is that you can't use Green's Theorem.


The Attempt at a Solution


I think you can break C into two other curves, C_1:r(t)=t\textbf{i}+t\textbf{j} for 0 \leq t \leq 4 and C_2:r(t)=(8-t)\textbf{i}+\frac{(8-t)^2}{4}\textbf{j} for 4 \leq t \leq 8.

I believe my error is somewhere below:

<br /> 2\int_{C_1}t^2dt+\frac{-1}{2} \int_{C_2}(8-t)^3((8-t)+1)dt \Rightarrow 2\int_0^4t^2dt+\frac{-1}{2} \int_4^8(8-t)^3((8-t)+1)dt<br />

I get that expression equal to \frac{-1376}{15}, which I know is incorrect, as I used Green's Theorem, and got \frac{32}{15} which also coincides with the answer key I have.
 
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Shouldn't your second integrand be something like (8-t)^4/16+(8-t)^3/2? With only a (-1) coefficient outside?
 
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Yes, that's what I had, but I factored it just a little bit in the above expression.
 
Then you factored it wrong. The integral of 2*t^2 from 0 to 4 minus the integral of (8-t)^4/16+(8-t)^3/2 from 4 to 8 is -32/15.
 
I realized my mistake, I had been thinking that I needed to get positive 32/15, but it all depends on the direction of the curve, which in my case was clockwise, and is usually taken to be counterclockwise. Is that correct?
 
Yes, but how did you get -1376/15?
 
I forgot a factor of 1/8 that should be in the second expression when I factored, thanks for the help!
 
I thought it was something like that. You set up the problem just fine. Very welcome.
 

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