Ground State Energy: What Regulates & Why is it Constant?

[Marco_84]

Hi marco,

no problem about the English.. I think each of us two is missing the other's point, but to circumvent this we discuss ;-) ...

You wrote:


I want so see an "explanation" of the so called "quantized orbit" in physical terms: charges, forces, moving things, rotating things, whatsoever.

I stated this question already before: why does the electrostatic attraction of opposite charges lead to an annihilation in case of electrons and positrons but not in case of electrons and hydrogen. At long distances the force between the charges is the same in both cases, isn't it ? What makes the difference at short distances ?

Please do not use words like "antiparticle" or "positron is different from proton" to discribe the situation at short distances ;-). Please try to argument with notions like "field, force, charge..." ;-)

Cheers & good weekend

I bet you wanted to say proton not H ;)

Well now the question changed a little bit, in any case follow what zapper z is suggesting to you, search there (high energy physics)..

To answer you question you nedd more than QM, actually the most recent (and confirmed theory) is QFT more properly the SM.

best regards
marco

 

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yes marco thanks for the hint: I meant proton but my typing fingers were too fast ;-)

Anyway, ZapperZ is suggesting the shift the discussion to another forum ... well ... why not, my question is obviously enormously different from what we had before in post #14

these might make more sense.

1.) Why does the electron energy remain constant in ground state hydrogen, as well as the average size of the atom?

2.) Why don't protons and anti-protons interact like protons and electrons?

Thanks in advance

Oh well ... I asked about electrons and positrons...

 

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I do no think that a physical answer to stability of the groundstate of Hydrogen (or positronium) will be found somewhere inside of those above mentioned QM or QFT books (at least not in the conventional textbooks). Most of QM or QFT books deal with tools and recipes for calculation.

It seems to me that J. S. Bell's view about Copenhagen QM is perfectly adequate to summarize present status of discussion:
"... We emphasize not only that our view is that of a minority, but also that current interest in such questions is small. Thy typical physicist fells that they have long been answered, and that he will fully understand just how if ever he can spare twenty minutes to think about it" , Bell, J. S. "Speakable and Unspeakable in Quantum Mechanics", Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, 1993

Good luck

 

[yuanyuan5220]

The ground state energy is a relative quantity. It is often defined as zero. what concerns us is the symmetry and gap.