H (heat transfer coefficient) problem

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on calculating the heat leakage in a chilling tank used in a refrigeration system based on the Evan Perkins cycle. The user seeks assistance in approximating heat transfer coefficients for both a metal and wooden box, considering conduction and natural convection. Key values mentioned include 1 BTU/hr/sq ft/°F for a metal box in still air and 2 BTU/hr/sq ft/°F for forced air circulation. The user is also advised to research the thermal resistance of wood and its increased thermal conductivity when moisture freezes below 0°C.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of heat transfer principles, specifically conduction and convection.
  • Familiarity with thermal conductivity measurements in English (American) units.
  • Basic knowledge of the Evan Perkins refrigeration cycle.
  • Ability to calculate surface area and temperature differences for heat transfer.
NEXT STEPS
  • Research "thermal resistance of wood" for detailed calculations.
  • Learn about "conductive heat transfer" using resources like Engineering Toolbox.
  • Investigate "characteristic length" concepts in heat transfer analysis.
  • Explore methods for calculating cooling loads in refrigeration systems.
USEFUL FOR

Engineers, HVAC professionals, and students involved in thermal analysis and refrigeration system design will benefit from this discussion.

Ravi Singh choudhary
Messages
123
Reaction score
7
I have a cuboid shaped box. It is being used as a chilling tank in my refrigeration system based on Evan Perkins cycle. For heat load calculation I tried to calculate the heat leakage in the sysyem. So I considered conduction and natural convection. I am in preliminary stage, so no use of softwares and simulations. Can anyone help me using approximations and comparing with simple geometric shapes like flat plates or any kind of characteristics length concept.
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
In English (American) units:

For a metal box in still air:

1BTU / Hr / Square Foot / oF

For a metal box with forced air circulation (either inside or outside): 2BTU / Hr / Square Foot / oF

(Sorry about the English units, that's the only one I've memorized.)
 
Tom.G said:
In English (American) units:

For a metal box in still air:

1BTU / Hr / Square Foot / oF

For a metal box with forced air circulation (either inside or outside): 2BTU / Hr / Square Foot / oF

(Sorry about the English units, that's the only one I've memorized.)
It is a wooden box and also I need to know the method to get there. Analytical or approximate.
 
Try this Google search: thermal resistance of wood

One result that goes into detail is:
http://web.ornl.gov/info/reports/1988/3445602823407.pdf

There are many more.

One thing to consider is that when below 0oC, the moisture in wood freezes and greatly increases the thermal conductivity.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Tom.G said:
Try this Google search: thermal resistance of wood

One result that goes into detail is:
http://web.ornl.gov/info/reports/1988/3445602823407.pdf

There are many more.

One thing to consider is that when below 0oC, the moisture in wood freezes and greatly increases the thermal conductivity.
Can I consider wooden box having four vertical plates and one horizontal plate at top...
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Ravi Singh choudhary said:
Can I consider metal box having four vertical plates and one horizontal plate at top...
Yes, if that is what you are using... assuming the bottom is closed.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Ravi Singh choudhary
Actually I need to calculate the cooling load of the chilling tank. I calculated cooling load of brine placed inside the box but I also want to calculate the heat leakage from the system and I want to consider the conduction and convection.
 
Tom.G said:
Yes, if that is what you are using... assuming the bottom is closed.
Let me give you the dimensions of the tank 600mmx450mmx300mm it is a model in laboratory. I was doubting about hydraulic diameter concept for the characteristic length of whole box instead of treating as individual walls.
 
Calculate the outside surface area of the box.

Look up the thermal conductivity of the wood you are using.
(Conductivity is often specified as Watts / (meter oC))

Multiply the conductivity by the surface area and by the temperature difference, then divide by the wall thickness.
{( conductivity x surface area x temp difference ) / wall thickness }

For a more complete description see: http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/conductive-heat-transfer-d_428.html
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 34 ·
2
Replies
34
Views
5K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 34 ·
2
Replies
34
Views
6K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
81K