Hard Double Integral Homework: Solve & Understand

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a double integral problem involving polar coordinates. Participants are attempting to evaluate the integral and clarify their understanding of the substitution process and the integration limits.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of polar coordinates for the integral, with one original poster expressing uncertainty about handling a specific term involving theta as an exponent. Others point out potential mistakes in evaluating the limits and suggest re-evaluating the integrand.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the evaluation of the integrand and the importance of squaring the lower limit. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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There is mention of an adjunct picture containing the integral, which is not visible in the discussion. Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules that may limit the extent of guidance provided.

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Homework Statement


I'm given the integral show in the adjunct picture, in the same one there is my attempt at a solution.

Homework Equations


x = r.cos(Θ)
y = r.sin(Θ)
dA = r.dr.dΘ

The Attempt at a Solution


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I tried to do it in polar coordinates, so I substituted x=r.cos(Θ) y=r.sin(Θ) in the function, I know the answer for the first integral will be ln (1+r^2)/2, but I don't know what should I do with that theta as an exponent of two, inside of a function with a squared root xP. Thank you
 

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CollinsArg said:

Homework Statement


I'm given the integral show in the adjunct picture, in the same one there is my attempt at a solution.

Homework Equations


x = r.cos(Θ)
y = r.sin(Θ)
dA = r.dr.dΘ

The Attempt at a Solution


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I tried to do it in polar coordinates, so I substituted x=r.cos(Θ) y=r.sin(Θ) in the function, I know the answer for the first integral will be ln (1+r^2)/2, but I don't know what should I do with that theta as an exponent of two, inside of a function with a squared root xP. Thank you
There's a mistake in your work. One of your steps is ##\frac 1 2 \int_0^{\pi/4} \ln(1 + r^2) |_{r = \sqrt{2^{1 - \theta} - 1}}^1 d\theta##. When you evaluate the integrand at the two endpoints, remember that you have ##r^2## in the integrand, not r. That makes things a lot simpler.
 
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You're on the right track. You forgot to square the lower limit when you plugged it in for r. What is \log(1+r^2) when you plug in r=\sqrt{2^{1-\theta}-1}?
 
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Thank you so much!
 

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