Harnessing Energy Of Jet Streams---Is It Really Possible?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of harnessing energy from jet streams, focusing on the potential for wind energy generation at high altitudes. Participants explore theoretical estimates, technological challenges, and potential environmental impacts associated with such energy extraction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference estimates that jet streams could generate between 7.5 TW and 1700 TW of power, with significant disagreement on the feasibility and climatic impact of such energy extraction.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the higher estimate of 1700 TW, suggesting it exceeds the total power sustaining atmospheric circulation.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the potential planetary scale weather effects of harnessing jet stream energy, as well as the technical challenges of deploying wind turbines at high altitudes.
  • Participants discuss the practicality of transferring energy generated at high altitudes to the ground and mention existing floating wind turbines as a related technology.
  • There is a suggestion that the timeline of 10-20 years for developing the necessary technology indicates uncertainty among scientists about the project’s feasibility.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views on the potential power generation from jet streams and the associated climatic impacts, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include uncertainty regarding the accuracy of power estimates, the dependence on technological advancements, and the unresolved implications of environmental effects.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring renewable energy technologies, climate science, and atmospheric physics.

Paradox101
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Here is something I read on a Wiki article:
"Scientists are investigating ways to harness the wind energy within the jet stream. According to one estimate, of the potential wind energy in the jet stream, only 1 percent would be needed to meet the world's current energy needs. The required technology would reportedly take 10–20 years to develop.[35] There are two major scientific articles about jet stream power. Archer & Caldeira[36] claim that the jet streams can generate the total power of 1700 TW, and that the climatic impact will be negligible. Miller, Gans, & Kleidon[37]claim that the jet streams can generate the total power of only 7.5 TW, and that the climatic impact will be catastrophic."

So, bottom line, can the kinetic energy of these fast moving winds(about 110 to 184 km/h) in the upper atmosphere(round about >12 km) be in any way harnessed? If so, how?
 
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Paradox101 said:
can generate the total power of 1700 TW,
This is about double the total power estimated to be sustaining air movement/atmospheric circulation, therefore, unlikely.
Paradox101 said:
7.5 TW, and that the climatic impact will be catastrophic.
Tune in the weather sometime, and watch the "troughs and ridges" in the jet stream moving across the country steering weather patterns. "Catastrophic?" Might be a bit overstated, but some caution in engineering circulation patterns is advisable.
 
Paradox101 said:
So, bottom line, can the kinetic energy of these fast moving winds(about 110 to 184 km/h) in the upper atmosphere(round about >12 km) be in any way harnessed? If so, how?

Since these scientists estimate it will take 10-20 years to develop the technology necessary to harness the power of the jet stream, my guess is they don't have a clue, either. :wink:

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oh...well thanx
 
It is an interesting concept, but I do have concerns that this may have planetary scale weather effects. There are also issues of getting large wind turbines to high enough altitude that can produce a reasonable amount of power. And let's not forget taking that power and transferring it to the ground. There are some floating wind turbines in existence today, though I do not know much about them.
 
Floating as to floating on water or levitating in the air?-----http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_wind_turbine
 
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