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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding suitable introductory textbooks for General Relativity (GR) and Quantum Mechanics (QM) that provide a gradual approach to the mathematics involved. Participants express their struggles with existing texts, particularly Hartle's book, and seek recommendations for alternatives that offer more detailed explanations and step-by-step guidance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty with Hartle's book due to sudden introductions of complex integrals and a lack of detailed explanations.
  • Another participant suggests that Hartle may be the easiest GR book available, but encourages seeking help from the forum if difficulties arise.
  • McMahon's "Relativity Demystified" is recommended by some as a potential starting point for GR, although one participant expresses strong opposition to its effectiveness as a physics book.
  • Foster & Nightingale is mentioned positively by multiple participants for its detailed explanations and partial solutions to exercises.
  • Some participants share their negative experiences with Hartle's approach, preferring texts that integrate mathematics more thoroughly.
  • Zee's "Einstein Gravity in a Nutshell" is introduced as a new option, but there is skepticism about its accessibility for beginners.
  • Ray D'Inverno's book is noted as being more advanced than Hartle's, while Taylor & Wheeler's "Exploring Black Holes" is suggested as a potentially suitable alternative.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best introductory texts for GR and QM. Multiple competing views exist regarding the effectiveness of various recommended books, with some participants expressing strong preferences and others challenging those recommendations.

Contextual Notes

Participants' recommendations are influenced by their individual backgrounds and experiences with different levels of mathematical rigor and pedagogical approaches. There is a notable emphasis on the need for gradual learning and detailed explanations, which varies among the suggested texts.

  • #31
Hi Dirac, I would suggest Griffiths' Electrodynamics text. If you work through that, you should be completely fine and ready to hit a book like Hartle or what have you. Griffiths' text is friendly and conversational so you might like it; I sure loved the tone (although I haven't done every single chapter in the book). The last chapter gives an introduction into the Lorentz covariant formulation of Maxwell's electrodynamics within SR. However you don't need to worry too much about that for now because most GR books will cover the Lorentz covariant as well as general covariant formulations of Maxwell's electrodynamics (Wald has a particularly amazing and concise coverage of it, IMO). Good luck my friend!
 
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  • #32
WannabeNewton said:
Hi Dirac, I would suggest Griffiths' Electrodynamics text.

Right on. Thanks. I'll check that one out.
 

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