Head on collision between mirror image vehicles

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the physics of a head-on collision between two mirror image vehicles traveling at 65 mph. Participants explore the implications of the collision in terms of force experienced by each vehicle, comparing it to impacts with an inelastic wall.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the force experienced by each vehicle in a collision at 65 mph is equivalent to hitting an inelastic wall at the same speed.
  • Another participant argues that while the total force for the collision is 130 mph, it is distributed between the two vehicles, leading to each experiencing a force akin to hitting a wall at 65 mph.
  • A third participant clarifies that force is not measured in mph and questions the notion of force being "spread," suggesting that the correct term may involve energy and emphasizing that the same forces result from the same (de)acceleration.
  • One participant recounts a previous conversation where they encountered a misunderstanding regarding the damage caused by the collision, indicating that the language used in such discussions can be imprecise.
  • Another participant references a Mythbusters episode that tested the scenario, concluding that the collision is equivalent to each vehicle hitting a wall at their respective speeds.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of forces in the collision, with some agreeing on the equivalence of the forces experienced by the vehicles while others challenge the terminology and concepts used.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the precise definitions of force and energy, as well as the assumptions made about the nature of the collision and the terminology used by participants.

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I have a question and I would like some help.

Assuming mirror image vehicles hitting at 65mph. Is the force exacted on each vehicle equal to 130mph or 65 mph. My assumption is that it would be the same as hitting an inelastic brick wall..

Thank ya'll in advance..
 
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Each vehicle experiences a force equal to hitting a non-elastic wall at 65 mph. The reason is that, even though the total force for the collision is 130 MPH, it is spread over the 2 vehicles.
 
Drakkith said:
The reason is that, even though the total force for the collision is 130 MPH, it is spread over the 2 vehicles.
Force is not measured in MPH. Force is also not "spread" (maybe you mean energy).

The reason for "same forces" is simple: same (de)acceleration.
 
I had a conversation with a dolt that attempted to tell me that the mirror image crash caused 130mph worth of damage to both vehicles.

And yes I know the language is not precise.

Feel free to correct me, I would like to know the correct terms. I golf with a physics prof on occasion.
 
A.T. said:
Force is not measured in MPH. Force is also not "spread" (maybe you mean energy).

The reason for "same forces" is simple: same (de)acceleration.

Yes. That is what I meant.
 
Also, there was a mythbusters episode that tested this. The result was that the collision is equal to each vehicle hitting a wall at the speed they were going.
 

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