Heat equation PDE for spherical case

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving the heat equation partial differential equation (PDE) for a perfectly spherical mass of water with specific initial conditions. Participants explore various methods and resources related to the problem, including the potential for 1D and 2D solutions.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, FiberOptix, seeks assistance in solving the heat equation PDE for a spherical mass of water with particular initial conditions.
  • Another participant suggests using separation of variables, comparing the solution to the l=0 free wave solution of the spherically symmetric Schrödinger equation.
  • Some participants express interest in both 1D and 2D solutions and propose writing up findings in LaTeX if the problem proves challenging for others.
  • There are references to external resources, including Wikipedia, for methods related to solving the heat equation.
  • A participant notes that specific details in the initial post complicate the generalization from standard resources, indicating a need for tailored assistance.
  • Another participant mentions a common oversight in full sphere problems regarding boundary conditions, specifically the need to enforce conditions at the poles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the problem, and while some suggest methods and resources, there is no consensus on a definitive approach or solution. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to apply to the specific conditions presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the initial conditions and boundary conditions may complicate the application of standard methods, and there are references to specific resources that may not fully address the unique aspects of the problem.

FiberOptix
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Hello, I believe this is my first post. I would like to solve the heat equation PDE with some special (but not complicated) initial conditions, my scenario is as follows:

A perfectly spherical mass of water, where the outer surface is at some particular temperature at t=0 (but not held at that temperature).

It seems simple enough but for some reason I have not been able to find all that much satisfying those conditions. Any help would be sincerely appreciated, even if it's only to point out a resource.

Thank you,

FiberOptix
 
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Come now, it's almost been a week! I'm interested in 1D and 2D solutions as well if that makes it easier. I hope to have something soon, and if this really is a big problem for most people I'll write it up in latex and post a link.
 
Hi,
have you tried separation of variables? the solution should look similar to the l=0 free wave solution of spherically symmetric Schroedinger equation with t replaced by -it.
This help?
 
mheslep said:

Actually if you look at my initial post you may find that there are a few details that make the generalization from these resources a little difficult, hence my plea for help on this forum. I even found a few better resources than those by googling but not until I got Carslaw & Jeager's book from the library here was I really on the right track.
 
FiberOptix said:
Actually if you look at my initial post you may find that there are a few details that make the generalization from these resources a little difficult, hence my plea for help on this forum. I even found a few better resources than those by googling but not until I got Carslaw & Jeager's book from the library here was I really on the right track.
Yes, sorry, so you did. IIRC the often missed trick for full sphere problems is forcing the boundary condition u(t,theta=0) == u(t,theta=2pi). Same with the first derivative BC's.
 

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