Heat Flow across cylindrical surface

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The problem involves calculating the rate of heat flow across a cylindrical surface defined by the equation y² + z² = 6, with a specified temperature distribution and thermal conductivity. The context is rooted in heat transfer and vector calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of the divergence theorem as a potential method for solving the problem, with some expressing confusion about the appropriate setup for the cylindrical coordinates. Questions arise regarding the correct interpretation of the vector field and the implications of the sign in the final answer.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and guidance on using the divergence theorem and evaluating the flux through the cylindrical surface. There is an exchange of ideas about the correct approach and the reasoning behind using certain methods, though no consensus has been reached on the interpretation of the results.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the divergence theorem and its application in this context, as well as the need to clarify the signs in the calculations related to heat flow direction. Some express a desire to learn integral methods for future assessments.

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Homework Statement


The temperatur at the point (x,y,z) in a substance with conductivity K=6.5 is u(x,y,z)=2y2+2z2. Find the rate of heat flow inward across the cylindrical surface y2+z2=6, 0≤x≤4.


Homework Equations


F=-k∇u
-k∫∫s∇u*ds

The Attempt at a Solution


So F=-6.5(0,4y,4z)
I get lost with how to find n because it is not in the usual cylindrical form x2+y2=6. Please give me some guidance. Thank you.
 
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Plot y^2+z^2=6,\, 0≤x≤4. It is a cylinder with center origin, radius=√6 and height=4, from plane x=0 to plane x=4. It's faster and easier if you use Gauss Divergence Theorem in this case, as using the sum of (3) surface integrals will require some work.

Since \vec F=-k(∇u), \vec F= -26y\hat j -26z\hat k.
 
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Thank you sharks. I really appreciate it.
∫∫∫52r drdθdz = 1248∏ which is the correct answer.

How do you know right off the bat to use the divergence theorem? Just from practice?
 
jerzey101 said:
Thank you sharks. I really appreciate it.
∫∫∫52r drdθdz = 1248∏ which is the correct answer.

How do you know right off the bat to use the divergence theorem? Just from practice?

Since your formula for \vec F involves -k, your answer should be negative. Unless you mistyped your relevant equation for \vec F?

The divergence theorem is just a 'shortcut' to evaluate the flux through a smooth completely enclosed surface. You don't have to evaluate the triple integral using cylindrical coordinates. Just use the formula for finding the volume of a cylinder: \pi r^2h, where r=\sqrt6 and h=4.
 
my answer should be negative, i just forgot to type the -. I see about just using the volume formulas. I'm just studying for my calc class so I wanted to learn the integral way because that's what I will have to do on the exam. Thanks again.
 
Actually, the answer is positive, since the heat flow is defined by the vector field F=-K∇u=-6.5<0,4y,4z>, and we want to find the rate of heat flow inward. The divergence is divF=-6.5(8). The volume of the cylinder is π(\sqrt{6})^{2}4=24π. So the INWARD flux through the cylinder with closed tops is -[-6.5(8)(24π)]=1248π. Then you'd have to show that the rate of heat flow through the tops of the cylinder is zero, which is easy since the x-component of F is zero.
 
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