Heat from radiation, why high v doesn't heat stuff?

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The discussion explores the relationship between radiation frequency and the heating effect on objects, particularly comparing lower frequency radiation like infrared with higher frequency radiation such as visible light. It examines why infrared radiation appears to heat objects more effectively despite higher frequency radiation having more energy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why lower frequency radiation, like infrared, contributes more to heating objects than higher frequency radiation, despite the latter having more energy.
  • Another participant notes that materials like glass and water are transparent to visible light but absorb infrared radiation, explaining why cars heat up in sunlight.
  • A participant proposes a hypothetical scenario comparing a 1 kW flashlight emitting only visible light to a 1 kW heater emitting only infrared radiation, questioning if they would have the same heating effect.
  • A later reply affirms that a 1 kW flashlight would be just as effective a heater as a 1 kW infrared heater.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion includes differing viewpoints on the effectiveness of various types of radiation for heating, with some participants agreeing on the heating capabilities of a hypothetical high-powered visible light source compared to infrared. However, the overall effectiveness of different radiation types remains a topic of exploration and debate.

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Participants do not fully resolve the underlying mechanisms of how different frequencies interact with materials, nor do they clarify the assumptions regarding energy transfer and absorption characteristics of various materials.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying thermodynamics, optics, or materials science, as well as individuals curious about the effects of different types of radiation on heating.

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Why does lower frequency radiation, like infrared, contribute to heating up an object so much more than the higher frequency radiation, like visible light?

The higher frequency radiation has more energy.

If you shine a light on something it doesn't get noticeably hotter, but if you put it in the microwave...

Same with the sun, the visible light is not what causes objects to heat up so much, yet it transfers more energy per unit time.
 
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Glass and water are optically 'transparent' but absorb (or block) in the infrared. That's why cars get hot inside in the sun.

If you shine an intense light at your hand, I believe you will feel the heat. Remember micrwaves are about 1 kW, but flashlights are a few watts and lightbulbs are one the order of 60 to 150 watts.
 
So if I had a 1kw flashlight that radiated only visible light it would be just as good a heater as a 1kw heater that radiated only infrared?
 

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