Heat transfer rate to heating time

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the heat transfer rate in a combined system involving a cylindrical outer wall, gas, and a central solid metal block. Participants explore the calculation of heat transfer rate and its relation to heating time, focusing on the theoretical and practical aspects of the model.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an equation for calculating the heat transfer rate Q, questioning whether the resulting value of 11.3213 Watts seems small.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the formatting of the equation, suggesting issues with the equation editor.
  • A participant mentions modifying the equation to yield more sensible answers and introduces a new equation to relate heat transfer to time, defined as q=cmΔT, where c is the specific heat of the gas, m is the mass of the gas, and ΔT is the change in temperature.
  • One participant requests additional information about the equation, including details about the model and variables, indicating a need for further clarification and context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the adequacy of the heat transfer rate calculated or the methods for relating heat transfer to time. Multiple approaches and uncertainties remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the accuracy of the equation formatting and the assumptions underlying the calculations, particularly concerning the specific heat and mass of the gas.

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Individuals interested in heat transfer calculations, thermal dynamics, and related mathematical modeling may find this discussion relevant.

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i have set up an equation to get the heat transfer rate Q for a combined system where heat is transferred from a cylindrical outer wall set at 500 C. the wall heats a gas, which in turn heats a solid block of cylindrical metal positioned in the centre of the heated walls with a starting temperature of 20 C.

the equation i have is

Q=[1]\frac{}{}[/(A0/(h*Alm1))+((r*A0)/(k*A2))+(A0/(h*Alm3))+((r*A0)/(k*A4))+(A0/(h*Alm5))]*A0*\DeltaT

and it give a result of 11.3213 Watts or the situation above.

but too me this seems small?? am i right in thinking this?

also can anyone tell me how i can relate this heat transfer to time. ie. know how long it would take to heat the central metal part.

Thank you in advance.
 
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could you fix the latex?
 
i could not get the equation editor to work properly (probaly the user to be fair) but i am included a hand written version as an attachment. i have managed to modifie it a bit which is giving me more sensible answers. But to get a value for time (in seconds#) i am using the below equation to get a value for q in joulse and then dividing q by Q.

q=cm\DeltaT

c = specific heat of the gas
m = mass of gas
delta T = the change in temperature

Thanks
 

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Hi, can you send me eveything about this equation including details the of model, description of the variable and sketch, I will look into this...
My email address is riscy00@googlemail.com
 

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