Heating Oxygen to Form Plasma: Is It Possible?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the feasibility of heating dioxygen (O2) to form plasma and whether continued heating could lead to the dissociation of atomic nuclei into protons, neutrons, and electrons. It explores theoretical aspects of plasma formation, ionization energy, and nuclear reactions, as well as potential applications in nuclear waste management.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether heating dioxygen will eventually lead to all electrons being freed and if this could result in a plasma composed solely of protons, electrons, and neutrons.
  • Another participant confirms that the ionization energy to free electrons is lower than the energy required to separate neutrons from protons.
  • A subsequent reply suggests that with sufficient energy, it is possible for atomic nuclei to break apart, but this would require extremely high temperatures (around 10^10 K).
  • One participant inquires about the feasibility of achieving nuclear dissociation in a particle accelerator, particularly regarding radioactive plutonium atoms.
  • Another participant argues that using plutonium as reactor fuel is a more practical approach, as it allows for energy extraction while managing nuclear waste.
  • A later reply discusses the potential of breaking down nuclear waste into its constituent particles for use in nuclear fusion, raising questions about the practicality of this method.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the practicality of breaking down atomic nuclei through heating and the best methods for managing nuclear waste. There is no consensus on the feasibility of the proposed methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the energy requirements for nuclear dissociation and the implications for nuclear waste management, but the discussion does not resolve the complexities involved in these processes or the assumptions underlying their proposals.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring plasma physics, nuclear physics, and nuclear waste management strategies.

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I have a question regarding plasma .Suppose i heat a certain amount of dioxygen , O2 , which will first easely break into oxygen and after come to a point where at least 1 electrons gets free of the oxygen atom and hence the substence become plasma according to the definition.

Now , if i keep heating this plasma , will all the atoms left in the oxygen get freed and will it keep going until the point where all the protons and neutrons will get freed to give a plamas containing only protons , electrons and neutrons . Is such a thing possible ??
 
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The ionization energy to free the electrons is way lower than the energy required to separate neutrons from protons, correct?
 
Yes , that is correct . But still if we keep adding energy when heating ,is the nucleus eventually going to break apart
 
Well, yes, but you'd have to heat it a lot, about 10^10 K, where the average thermal energy is in the MeV range, which is the binding energy of neutrons and protons in nucleae.
 
Is this more feasible on a small group of atoms in a particule accelerator ?
If so , would'nt it be possible to break , let's say , a group of radioactive plutonium atoms in its nucleous constituants ? This would be some kind of a way to get rid of nuclear wasts (but not a very cheap way).
 
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I think it is more feasible just to use the plutonium as reactor fuel.
Eventually you get the same result and in the meantime you can get energy out of it.
 
True , but what about the nuclear wasts that are not used to make nuclear fission and that are usually disposed.We could get rid of them that way and take the residual protons , neutrons and electrons for fuel for nuclear fusion.
 

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