Helicopter height and vertical speed?

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving a helicopter's acceleration and height. The helicopter has a mass of 2500 kg and accelerates at a constant rate of 1.7 m/s^2. It is modeled as a 2.6-m diameter sphere and air resistance is taken into account. The conversation also mentions the equations for gravity and drag, and the standard density of air at sea level. The calculations involve finding the drag force, the frontal area of the sphere, and the vertical speed of the helicopter. The final height of the helicopter is calculated using the acceleration-velocity-distance formula. The conversation ends with a discussion about not forgetting to consider the helicopter's acceleration in the calculations.
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bbbl67
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Homework Statement


This is not my homework question, I was asked to help with it, but I've been out of the engineering field for many years now. Here's the question:

Starting from rest, a 2500 kg helicopter accelerates straight up at a constant 1.7 m/s2. What is the helicopter's height at the moment its blades are providing an upward force of 29 kN? The helicopter can be modeled as a 2.6-m -diameter sphere, and air resistance is not negligible.

Homework Equations


Gravity:
F_g = m g

Drag:
C_d = F_d/(1/2 ρ u^2 A) |
F_d | drag force
C_d | drag coefficient
ρ | mass density
u | characteristic speed
A | frontal area

I looked up the drag coefficient (https://is.gd/qpe40K) of a sphere, and found two figures:
C_d = 0.1 (laminar)
C_d = 0.45 (turbulent)

So, I chose the turbulent figure (0.45).

The Attempt at a Solution


We know that the two forces will add up to 29 kN at a certain point, so:
F_g + F_d = 29 kN
F_d = 29 kN - F_g
= 29 kN - m g
= 29 kN - 2500 kg * 9.8 m/s^2
= 4.5 kN

The standard density of air at sea level is:
ρ = 1.204 kg/m^3

The frontal area of a sphere is:
A = pi * r^2
= pi * (2.6 m / 2)^2
= 5.309 m^2

So we have everything except the vertical speed of the helicopter, which we can find by rearranging the drag coefficient formula, and we get:
C_d = F_d/(1/2 ρ u^2 A)
u^2 = F_d/(1/2 ρ C_d A)
u = sqrt(F_d/(1/2 ρ C_d A))
= sqrt(4.5 kN/(0.5 * 1.204 kg/m^3 * 0.45 * 5.309 m^2))
= 56 m/s

Now to find the final height of the helicopter, we have to use and rearrange the acceleration-velocity-distance formula:

v_f^2 = v_i^2 + 2 a d |
v_f | final speed
a | acceleration
v_i | initial speed
d | distance

v_i = 0
v_f = u = 56 m/s
a = 1.7 m/s^2
d = h = ?
h = (v_f^2 - v_i^2)/ 2a
= (56 m/s)^2 / 2 (1.7 m/s^2)

Therefore,
h = 883 m

Were my procedures okay? Any critiques?
 
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  • #2
bbbl67 said:
F_g + F_d = 29 kN
That would make the helicopter keep its speed.
Don't forget its acceleration.
 
  • #3
mfb said:
That would make the helicopter keep its speed.
Don't forget its acceleration.
Well, the acceleration was used in the height calculation.
 
  • #4
That is not the only step where you need it. I quoted the part where you forgot to consider it.
 

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