Help calculating this limit please

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The discussion centers on calculating a limit related to a mathematical function, specifically addressing the challenges posed by an exponent involving n. The initial calculation for task a yielded a function, but the user struggles with the limit of the remainder element. L'Hôpital's rule was considered, but it was clarified that it is applicable only when both the numerator and denominator approach zero. The conversation highlights that the expression (x-1)/ξ is less than 1, leading to a limit of zero as n approaches infinity. Ultimately, the prefactor 1/(n+1) also approaches zero, confirming that the limit is indeed zero.
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Homework Statement
Calculate limit of ##\frac{1}{n+1} |\frac{x-1}{\xi}|^{n+1}## as ##n \rightarrow \infty##
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Hi,

I have problems with task b, more precisely with the calculation of the limit value:

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By the way, I got the following for task a ##f^{(n)}(x)=(-1)^{n+1} \frac{(n-1)}{x^n}##

Unfortunately, I have no idea how to calculate the limit value for the remainder element, since ##n## appears in the exponent. I tried it with L'Hôpital's rule and then get ##\Bigl( \frac{x-1}{\xi} \Bigr)^{n+1} \log(\frac{x-1}{\xi})## and if I now form the limit, it would be ##\infty## or not?
 
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Why would you apply l’Hopital? It is useful for cases when you have expressions where both numerator and denominator tend to zero.

You should focus on what is being exponentiated: ##(x-1)/\xi##. What are the possible values of this?
 
Thanks Orodruin for your help 👍, I hadn't thought of that, so the amount in the parenthesis is less than 1, which makes the limit at infinity zero.
 
Lambda96 said:
so the amount in the parenthesis is less than 1
Can be equal.
 
haruspex said:
Can be equal.
Yes, but the prefactor 1/(n+1) still goes to zero so the limit is still zero. Of course, for the proof to be valid the argumentation should be the correct one though.
 
Orodruin said:
but the prefactor 1/(n+1) still goes to zero so the limit is still zero
Quite so, but I was leaving that to the OP.
 
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