Help calculating this limit please

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The discussion revolves around calculating a limit related to a mathematical expression involving exponentiation and a remainder element. The original poster expresses difficulty with the limit value, particularly due to the presence of the variable n in the exponent.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use L'Hôpital's rule but questions the outcome of the limit. Some participants suggest focusing on the base of the exponent and its possible values, while others discuss the implications of the prefactor in the limit calculation.

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Participants are exploring different aspects of the limit calculation, with some providing insights into the behavior of the expression as n approaches infinity. There is a recognition of the need for correct argumentation to validate the limit's behavior, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the conditions under which L'Hôpital's rule is applicable, as well as the assumptions regarding the values of the expression being analyzed.

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Homework Statement
Calculate limit of ##\frac{1}{n+1} |\frac{x-1}{\xi}|^{n+1}## as ##n \rightarrow \infty##
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Hi,

I have problems with task b, more precisely with the calculation of the limit value:

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By the way, I got the following for task a ##f^{(n)}(x)=(-1)^{n+1} \frac{(n-1)}{x^n}##

Unfortunately, I have no idea how to calculate the limit value for the remainder element, since ##n## appears in the exponent. I tried it with L'Hôpital's rule and then get ##\Bigl( \frac{x-1}{\xi} \Bigr)^{n+1} \log(\frac{x-1}{\xi})## and if I now form the limit, it would be ##\infty## or not?
 
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Why would you apply l’Hopital? It is useful for cases when you have expressions where both numerator and denominator tend to zero.

You should focus on what is being exponentiated: ##(x-1)/\xi##. What are the possible values of this?
 
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Thanks Orodruin for your help 👍, I hadn't thought of that, so the amount in the parenthesis is less than 1, which makes the limit at infinity zero.
 
Lambda96 said:
so the amount in the parenthesis is less than 1
Can be equal.
 
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haruspex said:
Can be equal.
Yes, but the prefactor 1/(n+1) still goes to zero so the limit is still zero. Of course, for the proof to be valid the argumentation should be the correct one though.
 
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Orodruin said:
but the prefactor 1/(n+1) still goes to zero so the limit is still zero
Quite so, but I was leaving that to the OP.
 
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