Engineering Help finding the damping ratio formula for this circuit

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The discussion focuses on analyzing a circuit using Laplace transforms and the MAME method to derive current equations for two loops. The user derives the mesh currents I_m1 and I_m2, leading to a formula for the voltage across a capacitor. They express concern about ending up with a third-order differential equation and seek clarification on their approach. Another participant suggests using Thevenin's theorem to simplify the circuit analysis and provides the formula for the damping factor in terms of Thevenin resistance. The discussion concludes with a query about the specific resistor values needed to achieve a desired Thevenin resistance.
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Homework Statement
Derive the ordinary differential equation (ODE) for the network with the capacitor voltage vC4(t) as the dependent variable, time t as the independent variable, and Eg(t) as the network excitation described by a 10V step function. Find the resistor values that will give you a damping ratio of .1.
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The damping ratio is require to be .1
The circuit to be analyzed is shown below:

cirucit.png


Since initial conditions are zero (from the instructions) I will use laplace transforms for the cirucit and I will use the MAME method to solve this circuit. The laplace transforms that are required will give me:
$$E_g(s) = \frac{10}{s}$$
$$ L_3 = sL_3$$
$$ C_4 = \frac{1}{sC_4}$$
again, the initial conditions are zero so i did not include them in the transforms.

Now solving the MAME (mesh analysis matrix equation), by setting the first loop as Im1 and the second loop as Im2, I get:
$$
\begin{bmatrix}
R_1+ sL_3 + \frac{1}{sC4} & -(\frac{1}{sC4} + sL_3) \\
-(\frac{1}{sC4} + sL_3) & R_2+ sL_3 + \frac{1}{sC4}
\end{bmatrix}
*
\begin{bmatrix}
I_{m1}\\
I_{m2}
\end{bmatrix}
=
\begin{bmatrix}
\frac{10}{s}\\
0
\end{bmatrix}
$$

Which is of the form:
$$Z*I = V$$
I can use Cramer's rule to solve for I_m1 and I_m2. Doing so gives me the following two formulas:

$$I_{m1} = \frac{10(R_2+ sL_3 + \frac{1}{sC4})}{s^2(L_3R_2+R_1L_3)+sR_1R_2+(\frac{R_1+R_2}{C_4})}$$

and

$$I_{m2} = \frac{10(sL_3 + \frac{1}{sC4})}{s^2(L_3R_2+R_1L_3)+sR_1R_2+(\frac{R_1+R_2}{C_4})}$$

from the circuit I can see that
$$V_{C4}(t) = \frac{I_{m1}-I_{m2}}{sC_4}$$

thus i can use my equations to solve for Vc4 as:

$$\frac{10(R_2)}{s^2(L_3R_2+R_1L_3)+sR_1R_2+(\frac{R_1+R_2}{C_4})} * \frac{1}{sC_4}$$

am i doing this right? Even if i turn this into the time domain I would have a third order differential equation in the denominator. What am I doing wrong?
 
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Hi BO.
the standard form of second order systems is like this:
$$
x(t) = y''(t) + 2 \delta y'(t) + \omega_{r}^{2} y(t)
$$
I would do a thevenin transform from the point of view of the branch of the inductor and capacitor in series, you get the following thevenin parameters:
$$
v_{th}(t) = E_{g}(t) \cdot \dfrac{R_{2}}{R_{1} + R_{2} }
$$

The thevenin equivalent impedence in this case:
$$
Z_{th} = \dfrac{R1 \cdot R_{2} }{R_{1} + R_{2} }
$$
Redraw the circuit, with Vth and Rth and the L and C in series, apply the standard KVL in differential equation form:
$$
V_{thevenin}(t) = V_{R thevenin}(t) + V_{L}(t) +V_{c}(t)
$$
Which becomes:
$$
V_{Th}(t) = i(t)\cdot R_{Th} + L \cdot i'(t) + \dfrac{1}{C} \displaystyle \int i(t)
$$
Remove the integral by taking the first derivative:
$$
V_{Th}'(t) = i''(t) \cdot L + i'(t) R_{Th} + \dfrac{i(t)}{C}
$$
Multiply throughout with
$$
\dfrac{1}{L}
$$
THen
$$ \dfrac{V_{Th}'(t)}{L} = i''(t) + i'(t) \dfrac{R_{Th}}{L} + \dfrac{i(t)}{LC} $$
Then the damping factor is defined as:
$$
\delta = \dfrac{R_{Th}}{2 L}
$$
And the square of the resonant angular velocity:
$$
\omega_{r}^{2} = \dfrac{1}{LC}
$$
Then the damping factor is simply:
$$
\delta = \bigg( \dfrac{R1 \cdot R2 }{R1 + R2} \bigg) \cdot \dfrac{1}{2L}
$$
The reason the damping factor is multiplied by 2 in the above equation is due to the quadratic formula:
$$
\sqrt{ 4 \cdot( \delta^{2} - \omega_{r}^{2} ) }
$$
And now you can find out the value of the thevenin resistance:
$$
R_{th} = 7.4 \,\, \text{m} \Omega
$$
What values of $$ R_{1} ,R_{2} $$ give this? My answer is to use $$ 14.8 \,\, \text{m} \Omega $$ for both. Or to decide on one value for R1 and then substitute to find the value for R2.
Boltzman Oscillation said:
Original post above.
 
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