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The discussion revolves around a gravitational force problem involving a ring-shaped mass and a small mass placed along its axis. Participants are exploring the nature of the gravitational force exerted by the ring on the small mass and the mathematical formulation of this force.

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  • The original poster expresses confusion about how to begin the problem. Some participants suggest visualizing the ring and breaking down the forces exerted by small mass elements on the small mass. Others propose simplifying the problem by considering discrete masses instead of a continuous ring.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and alternative approaches. Some guidance has been provided regarding the symmetry of the forces and the cancellation of components, but there is no explicit consensus on a single method to tackle the problem.

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There is an emphasis on using symmetry and vector components in the discussion, with participants considering the implications of these concepts on the gravitational force calculation. The original poster's request for help indicates a need for foundational understanding before proceeding with the problem.

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A mass M is ring shaped with radius r. A small mass m is placed at a distance x along the ring's axis. Show that the gravitational force on the mass m due to the ring is directed inward along the axis and has magnitude

F= GMmx/(x^2+r^2)^3/2

Hints:
-Think of the ring as made up of many small point masses dM
-Sum over the forces due to each dM
-Use symmetry

I am just confused on where to begin! Any help would be greatly apperciated!
 
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draw a ring (or a circle) on paper, take one little part of it, the force of that part, which mass is dM is F = GmdM/(L^2), and L is distance from dM to m. You can find this distance using Pythagoras theorem (L^2 = x^2 + r^2). Also notice, that the little element dM has his opposite element on the other side of the circle, which exerts same force (in magnitude) as dM. Draw those two forces in other paper ;] then you maybe notice that component of those forces along rings radius cancels, and stays only the component along rings axis if you sum them.
hope this help a little, I am not very good at writing thoughts ;]
 
To make the problem easier, imagine that instead of a ring you have 4 different masses of mass M/4, at a distance r from the axis. Find the resultant gravity force for each mass M with the mass m at a distance x (don't forget a force is a vector). Then separate all those forces into 2 components: one along the axis, the other perpendicular to it. You will find that all components perpendicular to the axis will cancel each other and the net resultant force will be the sum of all the ones parallel to the axis.
 
Great, thanks that was helpful!
 

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