Help in proving abs(abs(x)-abs(y))<=abs(x-y)

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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality abs(abs(x) - abs(y)) ≤ abs(x - y), which relates to properties of absolute values in the context of real numbers.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to manipulate the inequality but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their approach. Some participants suggest using known inequalities involving absolute values, while others propose analyzing the problem through case distinctions based on the signs of x and y.

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Participants are exploring various methods to approach the proof, including algebraic manipulation and case analysis. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but several productive lines of reasoning are being discussed.

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Some participants note the importance of considering different cases based on the signs of x and y, and there is an acknowledgment of the need for careful handling of absolute values in the proof.

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Homework Statement


already proved abs(x)-abs(y)≤abs(x-y)
I just don't know how to prove it

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we have :abs(x)-abs(y)≤abs(x-y)
abs(x)-abs(y)/abs(x-y)≤1 / abs(x-y) is diff than 0

proving abs(abs(x)-abs(y))/abs(x-y))≤1 :abs(x-y)diff than 0 then...
abs(abs(x)-abs(y)/abs(x-y))≤1 / abs(x-y)=abs(abs(x-y))

a<=abs(a)
a=abs(x)-abs(y)/abs(x-y)) :a≤1
abs(x)-abs(y)/abs(x-y))≤abs(abs(x)-abs(y)/abs(x-y))...
can't continue from here...I don't think this is the right way to do it
please any help.
 
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Well,

from |x| <= |x-y|+|y|
and |y| <= |y-x|+|x|

So you have: |x|-|y| , |y|-|x| <= |x-y|
Then because ||x|-|y|| equals one of them, what can you infer?
 
I would do this in four cases:
1) x> 0, y> 0
2) x> 0, y< 0
3) x< 0, y> 0
4) x< 0, y< 0

And each case would have two "subcases"
a) |x|> |y|
b) |x|< |y|
 
The way I did it was to take ##\displaystyle ||x| - |y||.||x| + |y||## and simplify it algebraically, ending up with ##\displaystyle ||x| - |y|| = |x-y|.|\frac{x+y}{|x| + |y|}|##.

It should be quite trivial to observe that the factor on the right is always positive, and has a maximum value of 1, and that only occurs when x and y are of the same sign.
 

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