Rigorous Multivariable Limit Definition Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around proving the rigorous definition of a limit for a multivariable function as it approaches the point (1,1). The function in question is given as f(x,y)=(y*(x-1)^(4/3))/((x/1)^2+abs(x)*y^2), and participants are exploring the challenges associated with this proof, particularly in relation to the ε-δ definition of limits.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to apply the rigorous definition of limits and express uncertainty about handling limits not centered at (0,0). There are suggestions to shift the coordinates to simplify the problem. Questions arise regarding potential typos in the function's expression, specifically whether (x/1)^2 should be (x-1)^2. Some participants also consider working backwards from ε to find δ.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and suggestions on how to approach the problem. There is acknowledgment of a typo in the function, and some participants are exploring different methods to frame the limit proof. However, there is no explicit consensus on a single approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of working with a limit definition that is not centered at the origin, and there is a mention of the course being conducted in a non-English language, which may affect clarity in communication.

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Homework Statement


Hey I'm trying to prove the rigorous definition of limit for the following function:
Lim (x,y) approaches (1,1) of f(x,y)=(y*(x-1)^(4/3))/((x/1)^2+abs(x)*y^2)

Homework Equations


abs(x^2)<abs(x^2 +y^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


I know the rigorous definition of limit. I tried to constraint the denominator by eliminating one of the terms since both are greater than zero, however, I was left with what seemed like terms that could not be constrained. I never really done a rigorous definition of limit that's not centered on (0,0). I would appreciate some help.
 
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If you feel more comfortable with limits centred at ##(0,0)##, you can deform the problem (in order to get an idea for ##\delta##), by doing a shift ##(x,y)\rightarrow (x-1,y-1)##. I'm assuming proofs are required to be directly from the ##\epsilon##-##\delta## definition?
 
dumbdumNotSmart said:

Homework Statement


Hey I'm trying to prove the rigorous definition of limit for the following function:
Lim (x,y) approaches (1,1) of f(x,y)=(y*(x-1)^(4/3))/((x/1)^2+abs(x)*y^2)
Typo above? Should the (x/1)^2 be (x - 1)^2?
dumbdumNotSmart said:

Homework Equations


abs(x^2)<abs(x^2 +y^2)

The Attempt at a Solution


I know the rigorous definition of limit. I tried to constraint the denominator by eliminating one of the terms since both are greater than zero, however, I was left with what seemed like terms that could not be constrained. I never really done a rigorous definition of limit that's not centered on (0,0). I would appreciate some help.
 
Mark44 said:
Typo above? Should the (x/1)^2 be (x - 1)^2?
Yes, that is in fact a typo.
 
Lucas SV said:
If you feel more comfortable with limits centred at ##(0,0)##, you can deform the problem (in order to get an idea for ##\delta##), by doing a shift ##(x,y)\rightarrow (x-1,y-1)##. I'm assuming proofs are required to be directly from the ##\epsilon##-##\delta## definition?
That's right, however I may constraint the whole thing backwards, that is, work from ε and thereafter find δ in the form of ||(x,y)-(v,w)|| inside the ε I am constraining.(which in the definition of the limit is |f(x,y)-L|<ε L being the Limit I am trying to prove)... I'm not sure how much sense that made, let me know if you need any more clarification. The course is not in english, as you might have noticed.
 

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