Help: Looking for Gas property software

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding suitable gas property software for turbine and expander applications, specifically focusing on tools that can handle mixtures rather than just pure gases. Participants outline their requirements for inputs and outputs, as well as the equations of state they are interested in.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests software that can handle inputs such as inlet pressure, inlet temperature, discharge pressure, mass flow, and process components, with outputs including isentropic head and densities at various points.
  • Another participant suggests REFPROP from NIST as a good database for gas property calculations, noting its compatibility with Excel and programming languages, but mentions it is primarily for pure gases.
  • A later reply clarifies that REFPROP can also handle mixtures, citing personal experience with natural gas properties.
  • Another participant recommends the Engineering Equation Solver (EES) as a potential alternative, mentioning its availability as a student version.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is some disagreement regarding the capabilities of REFPROP, with one participant asserting it is limited to pure gases while another claims it can handle mixtures. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best software solution for the specified requirements.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying needs for mixture handling and programming capabilities, indicating that the effectiveness of the suggested software may depend on specific use cases and user expertise.

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I'm looking for a gas property software which is used for turbine/expander. Below are the basic requirements for the tool:

Inputs:
Inlet pressure, inlet temperature, discharge pressure, mass flow, process components & compositions.

Outputs:
Isentropic head, density at inlet, density at outlet, liquid at inlet, liquid at outlet, Z, cp, cv…etc

Equation: SRK, Peng-Robinson, BWR, LK

Does anyone have any idea if there’s a tool which is good for nature gas applications?
Thanks
 
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organic168 said:
I'm looking for a gas property software which is used for turbine/expander. Below are the basic requirements for the tool:

Inputs:
Inlet pressure, inlet temperature, discharge pressure, mass flow, process components & compositions.

Outputs:
Isentropic head, density at inlet, density at outlet, liquid at inlet, liquid at outlet, Z, cp, cv…etc

Equation: SRK, Peng-Robinson, BWR, LK

Does anyone have any idea if there’s a tool which is good for nature gas applications?
Thanks

If you want gas property software, then REFPROP from NIST is a good database. It comes with a .dll you can use in Excel or VB (I think C++ too). It cost about $200 bucks. Version 8 includes a good library on hydrocarbons.

CS
 
thanks, but I forgot to mention that I need mixture. NIST is for pure gas. It calculates each state points, still requires some programming.
 
organic168 said:
thanks, but I forgot to mention that I need mixture. NIST is for pure gas. It calculates each state points, still requires some programming.

No, it can do mixtures too. For example, I used it to find properties for Natural Gas based on a typical sample.

CS
 
you can try engineering equation solver(EES). Its up there on net as a student version.
 

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