Help please designing a Piezeoactuator drive circuit

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing a drive circuit for a piezo actuator that requires over 100 VDC, while the user only has access to a power source of less than 30 VDC. Participants explore various solutions, including voltage conversion methods and the importance of having a datasheet for the actuator.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests obtaining a higher voltage source as a straightforward solution.
  • Another proposes using a high voltage supply with an HV buffer if the actuator requires continuous 100 V, or alternatively, a transformer or Marx pulse multiplier for pulsed applications.
  • A participant shares their experience with a boost converter that steps up 12 V to approximately 200 V, indicating the components used (555 timer, MOSFET, inductor, capacitor).
  • Several participants emphasize the necessity of a datasheet for the actuator to determine the appropriate voltage and current requirements, arguing that without it, the discussion lacks direction.
  • One participant expresses frustration over the lack of information about the actuator's specifications and the user's experience with high voltage electronics.
  • Another participant questions the need for high power levels, suggesting that driving a piezo actuator typically does not require such high specifications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of having a datasheet for the piezo actuator to provide accurate guidance. However, there are differing opinions on the necessary power levels and methods for achieving the required voltage, indicating unresolved aspects of the discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion is limited by the absence of specific details regarding the actuator's specifications, such as voltage and current requirements, which are critical for determining suitable circuit designs. Additionally, the user's lack of experience with high voltage electronics may affect their understanding of the proposed solutions.

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I want to actuate the piezeoactuator which is taking more than 100vdc. But i have a sorce of less than 30vdc. Can any one tell me what to do.
 
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Get another voltage source. Simple as that.
 
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If the actuator will be used to position something and needs 100 V, then you will need a high voltage supply that powers an HV buffer.
If the actuator needs only a 100 V pulse, you could use a transformer or a Marx pulse multiplier.
 
For my Nixie lamp clock I made a boost converter that uses 12V as input and produces ~200V. Basically just a 555, a MOSFET, an inductor and a capacitor.
 
Welcome to PF. :smile:

core7916 said:
I want to actuate the piezeoactuator which is taking more than 100vdc. But i have a sorce of less than 30vdc. Can any one tell me what to do.
Can you post a link to the datasheet for the actuator? That would help a lot. Thanks.
 
Borek said:
For my Nixie lamp clock I made a boost converter that uses 12V as input and produces ~200V. Basically just a 555, a MOSFET, an inductor and a capacitor.
Can you share more information about how you converted 12v to 200v..
In my case i have to produce 200v from 28v source.
 
Without having a datasheet, and knowing the application of the piezoactuator, this thread is lost.
 
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core7916 said:
Can you share more information about how you converted 12v to 200v.

Use google, Luke.

I gave you several key words to search for, they should put you on the track. But, as others already suggested you more than once, choice of the converter depends on the power consumption of the actuator. No datasheet, no way to choose a fitting solution.
 
core7916 said:
Can you share more information about how you converted 12v to 200v..
In my case i have to produce 200v from 28v source.
This is starting to sound more like your other thread (which is now closed):
core7916 said:
I need to design a circuit which takes around 28V of input and outputs the 200v with 20A. Can any one help me.

You don't need that high of a power level to drive a piezo actuator. Last chance -- please link to the datasheet for the piezo actuator, and tell us your level of experience in working with high voltage electronics. Thank you.
 
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berkeman said:
This is starting to sound more like your other thread (which is now closed):You don't need that high of a power level to drive a piezo actuator. Last chance -- please link to the datasheet for the piezo actuator, and tell us your level of experience in working with high voltage electronics. Thank you.
I dont have any datsheets of piezeoactuator. All i know is i want high voltage to actuate it. And i want high current in beginning. Lets say less than 5ms i have to apply high current then i dont need high current. Since i am fresh to these power converting i dont have much knowledge about it. Can you please suggest anything
 
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Where did you find the piezo-actuator?
What are its dimensions?
What do you intend to use it for?
 
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core7916 said:
I dont have any datsheets of piezeoactuator.
If you read the little-biddy writing on the side of the piezo, what does it say? :wink:

Can you upload a picture of it? (use the "Attach files" link below the Edit box)
 
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berkeman said:
Last chance -- please link to the datasheet for the piezo actuator, and tell us your level of experience in working with high voltage electronics.
core7916 said:
I dont have any datsheets of piezeoactuator. All i know is i want high voltage to actuate it. And i want high current in beginning.
Without a datasheet, you do not know voltage and you do not know current. Without a datasheet, we do not know voltage or current, so we cannot help you. So I locked this thread. If you want the thread reopened send a PM to myself or @berkeman.
 
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