Help solving First Order RL circuit

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The discussion revolves around solving a first-order RL circuit problem, focusing on the behavior of the inductor current at the moment a switch is activated (t = 0) and shortly thereafter (t = 0+). Participants explore the implications of inductance on current continuity and the application of Kirchhoff's laws to derive equations for the circuit.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that the inductor current at t = 0+ should be the same as at t = 0 due to the property that current cannot change instantaneously in an inductor.
  • Another participant provides a mathematical proof involving the relationship between voltage and current in an inductor, suggesting that any discontinuity in current would lead to an unbounded voltage, which is not physically feasible.
  • A third participant attempts to solve the circuit using node equations but expresses uncertainty about the results, particularly regarding the voltage across the inductor.
  • Another participant suggests a different approach using Kirchhoff's laws, emphasizing the importance of applying these laws to derive a first-order linear differential equation for the inductor current.

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Participants generally agree on the principle that the inductor current cannot change instantaneously. However, there is disagreement regarding the specific calculations and methods for solving the circuit, with multiple approaches being discussed without a clear consensus on the correct solution.

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Some participants' calculations may depend on specific assumptions about circuit components and configurations, and there are unresolved mathematical steps in the proposed solutions.

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At time t = 0_

The circuit looks like the voltage source in series with R1 and R2 with the inductor acting like a short circuit.

iL (0_) = 60V/50Ω = 1.2A

At t = 0+

The circuit looks like

http://img839.imageshack.us/i/52735488.jpg

Would iL(0 +) be a different current or the same? I have a feeling it would be the same.

It is true that the inductance current remains the same right before and right after the switch is activated because the current through the inductor can't change instantaneously right?

Any help on solving fr iL( 0+) and iL(t) would be appreciated
 
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Yes, it is true that the current cannot change instantaneously in a coil because consider the following equation,

u_L(t) = L \frac{di_L}{dt}.​

Let's assume i_L(0^-) \neq i_L(0^+), that is, i_L(t) is not continuous at t = 0. Then the derivative in the first equation is not bounded, and this means a voltage drop that goes to infinity, which is not physically possible.

I will now present to you an additional proof. Let us separate variables in the first equation and integrate; you will get this:

i_L(t) = i_L(t_0) + \frac{1}{L}\int_{t_0}^{t} u(\tau) d\tau.​

Let us study what happens when t=0^+ and t_0 = 0^-; we obtain

i_L(0^+) = i_L(0^-) + \frac{1}{L}\int_{0^-}^{0^+} u(\tau) d\tau.​

Now, provided that the function u(\tau) is bounded, it vanishes. This means that in a very idealized situation, when you have sharp voltage surges (mathematically idealized with what are known as Dirac delta "functions"), you could get a non-continuous function for the current in a coil. However, you don't need to worry, as this is a mathematical treatment of an idealized situation. In real life, you'll always have a small but non-zero resistance in a cable which is apparently a short circuit.

For i_L(t), you'd need to get differential equations with Kirchhoff's laws and the relationship between voltage drop and current (see the first formula) in an inductor and then solve it, using the initial value you have determined.

Hope this helps. :)
 
I try solving using node equations

I make a node called V1 where the three resistors intersect each other and another node called VL above the inductor

The node equation for V1 is

(V1-60)/30 + V1/60 + (V1-VL)/20 = 0

V1/30 - 2 + V1/60 + V1/20 - VL/20 = 0

The node equation for VL is

(VL-V1)/20 + 1.2 = 0

VL/20 = V1/20 - 1.2

VL = V1 -24

Plugging that back in the node equation for V1

V1/30 - 2 + V1/60 + V1/20 - (V1-24)/20 = 0

V1/30 - 2 + V1/60 + V1/20 - V1/20 + 24/20 = 0

V1 = -24

so VL = -24 - 24 = -48V ?

I have a feeling something is wrong.
 
You don't need to solve for the voltage drop in the inductor. Assume that for t \geq 0, the current in the branch to the left is i_1 going up, the branch in the middle has a current of i_2 going down, and the branch to the right has i_L going down as already indicated in your diagram. We use Kirchhoff's voltage law for the left mesh:

V_s = R_1 i_1(t) + R_3 i_2(t)​

and for the right mesh,

R_3 i_2(t) = R_2 i_L(t) + L \frac{d i_L}{dt}​

and then apply Kirchhoff's junction rule to the node on top:

i_1(t) = i_2(t) + i_L(t).​

Now, all you need to do is, for instance, plug the value of i_1(t) from the last equation into the first equation, and from this new equation, solve for i_2(t) and finally, plug this value of i_2(t) into the equation in the middle. This will produce a first order linear differential equation in i_L(t), where the initial value is none other than i_L(0^-) = i_L(0^+) = i_L(0), which you will need to solve for the constant of integration that appears.

Once you have i_L(t), all you need to do is differentiate it with respect to time and multiply it by L to get the voltage drop in the coil as a function of time.

Good luck. ;)
 

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