Help understanding math on inclined plane example

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The discussion revolves around understanding the mathematical derivation of acceleration and velocity for a block on an inclined plane, specifically referencing the Marion/Thornton example 2.1. The key equation derived is the acceleration down the plane, expressed as \(\ddot{x} = g \sin \Theta\). The confusion arises during the integration process to find the velocity after moving a distance \(x_0\), particularly regarding the application of the chain rule and the limits of integration. The correct interpretation involves recognizing that the left side of the equation simplifies through the chain rule, leading to the integral limits being defined in terms of \(v^2\).

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I'm trying to follow a very simple example example in a text (Marion/Thornton example 2.1) and I think my rusty calculus is tripping me up and I'm just being stupid.

I understand how to derive the acceleration down the plane:

\ddot{x}=g\sin\Theta

but next they say 'we can find the velocity of the block after it moves from rest a distance x0 down the plane by multiplying by 2x' and integrating.

2\dot{x}\ddot{x}=2\dot{x}g\sin\Theta

the next steps confuse me...

\frac{d}{dt}(\dot{x}^2)=2g\sin\Theta\frac{dx}{dt}

What happens to the 2 on the left? What am I doing wrong here?
2\dot{x}\ddot{x}=2\dot{x}\frac{d}{dt}\dot{x}=2\frac{d}{dt}(\dot{x}^2)

Next, the limits of integration are chosen:

\int_{0}^{v^2_0}d(\dot{x}^2)=2g\sin\Theta\int_{0}^{x_0}dx

I have no idea what is happening on the left... where do they pull v^2 0 from? What happens to time? What is going on here again.. last time I had calculus was years ago. Thanks.
 
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2VdV/dt = dV^2/dt
 
They are using the chain rule from calculus.

du/dt = (du/dv) (dv/dt) , where u is a function of v -- i.e. u(v)

Letting u=v2, note that (du/dv) = 2v. So applying the chain rule:

d(v2)/dt = (du/dv) (dv/dt)
= (2v) (dv/dt)
= 2 v dv/dt​

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As for the limits on the integral: note that "v2" is the variable that is being integrated. The limits must be in terms of that variable. And since v2 varies from 0 to vo2, those are the limits of integration.

Hope that helps. And welcome to Physics Forums!
 

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