Help with Integral Homework: Reduce to Solve

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The problem involves evaluating the integral ∫[√x /(1+x)] dx using substitution. The original poster has attempted a substitution with u = √x, leading to a new integral form that requires further simplification.

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  • Participants discuss the use of substitution and polynomial long division as methods to simplify the integral. There is a focus on algebraic manipulation to reduce the expression for easier integration.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using polynomial long division and an algebraic trick to simplify the integral. There is a shared concern regarding the correctness of the book's answer, with multiple participants expressing skepticism about the provided solution.

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Participants note the need for algebraic steps to continue with the integration process and question the validity of the book's answer, which does not align with their findings.

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Homework Statement


The problem is this:
∫[√x /(1+x)] dx
I used sustitution method
u= √x
u^2=x
2udu=dx

Homework Equations


My new integral is:
∫[(u*2udu)/(1+u^2)]du
2∫[u^2/(1+u^2)]du
I need help to reduce this point to continue, I guess I need some algebraic steps

The Attempt at a Solution



The book shows: x^3/3 -3x - 10Ln|x-5| + C as the answer but I think this is wrong because I don't have x-5 anywhere
 
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ArmandStarks said:

Homework Statement


The problem is this:
∫[√x /(1+x)] dx
I used sustitution method
u= √x
u^2=x
2udu=dx

Homework Equations


My new integral is:
∫[(u*2udu)/(1+u^2)]du
2∫[u^2/(1+u^2)]du
This looks OK. I would use polynomial long division to turn this improper rational expression into a nicer form for integration. If you're not familiar with this technique, do a web search for "polynomial long division".
ArmandStarks said:
I need help to reduce this point to continue, I guess I need some algebraic steps

The Attempt at a Solution



The book shows: x^3/3 -3x - 10Ln|x-5| + C as the answer but I think this is wrong because I don't have x-5 anywhere
I agree - the book's answer doesn't look right.
 
ArmandStarks said:

Homework Statement


The problem is this:
∫[√x /(1+x)] dx
I used sustitution method
u= √x
u^2=x
2udu=dx

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



My new integral is:
∫[(u*2udu)/(1+u^2)]du
2∫[u^2/(1+u^2)]du
I need help to reduce this point to continue, I guess I need some algebraic steps

The book shows: x^3/3 -3x - 10Ln|x-5| + C as the answer but I think this is wrong because I don't have x-5 anywhere
Hello ArmandStarks. Welcome to PF !

You can use "long division" to divide u2 by (u2 + 1) .

Or use the following "trick" .

##\displaystyle \frac{u^2}{1+u^2}=\frac{u^2+1-1}{1+u^2}##

##\displaystyle =\frac{1+u^2}{1+u^2}-\frac{1}{1+u^2}##​
 
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SammyS said:
Hello ArmandStarks. Welcome to PF !

You can use "long division" to divide u2 by (u2 + 1) .

Or use the following "trick" .

##\displaystyle \frac{u^2}{1+u^2}=\frac{u^2+1-1}{1+u^2}##

##\displaystyle =\frac{1+u^2}{1+u^2}-\frac{1}{1+u^2}##​
I just found that "trick" and the 2 integrals are easy to do.
Thank you both!
 

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