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The discussion revolves around evaluating a limit involving the functions arctan and arccos as x approaches 1 from the left. Participants are exploring various methods to tackle the limit, which includes cube roots and trigonometric identities.

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  • Participants discuss different methods they have attempted, including substitution and algebraic manipulation. Some express frustration over the inability to reach a solution, while others suggest using L'Hôpital's rule despite restrictions on derivative knowledge. There are also considerations of graphing the function to gain insights.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the validity of their approaches. Some have provided insights into the nature of the limit and its components, while others are still seeking clarity on the problem setup.

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There are constraints noted regarding the use of derivatives, which some participants are not allowed to use. Additionally, there is confusion about the behavior of certain functions within specified intervals.

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okay, here I have a problem with this limit, i used every method i know of and could solve it... any help or something to get started with be appreciated


[tex]\lim_{\x\rightarrow 1^{-}\} \frac{\sqrt[3]{\arctan(x)} - \arccos(\sqrt[3]{x}) - \sqrt[3]{frac{\pi}{4}}{x-1}[/tex]


okay i tried ti put x=cos^3 (X) but couldn't get to a result
I tried to use the x^3 - y^3 = (x-y)(x²+xy+y²) but no result
i tried everything :-S

PS: we didnt learn the derivative function of arctanx ...
 
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i think the latex hasnt worked... it was :
the limit when x tends to 1- of :
[arctan(x)]^(1/3) - arccos [x^(1/3)] - (pi/4)^(1/3)
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x-1


[tex]\lim_{\x\rightarrow 1^{-}\} \frac{\sqrt[3]{\arctan(x)}-\arccos(\sqrt[3]{x}) - \sqrt[3]{frac{\pi}{4}}{x-1}[/tex]
 
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Use l'hospital's rule. [tex]\frac{d}{dx} \arctan x = \frac{1}{1+x^{2}}[/tex]
 
He isn't allowed to know the derivative of arctan..:frown:
 
yeah right... :-s
 
[tex]\lim_{y\rightarrow 0}\frac{sin(y)}{y}[/tex]
 
umm equals one ?! so ...
 
still no one !? :confused:
 
here is it...
[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow 1^{-}} \frac{\sqrt[3]{\arctan x} - \arccos \sqrt[3]{x} - \sqrt[3]{\frac{\pi}{4}}}{x-1}[/tex]
 
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woops, yea sorry was trying to get your limit to show up... Something weird musta happened. Sorry.
 
  • #11
I realize that this is the derivative of [tex]\sqrt[3]{\arctan x} - \arccos \sqrt[3]{x}[/tex] at the point 1. But I guess that doesn't help since I am not supposed to use the derivatives
 
  • #12
why not look at the graph?
 
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okay... here is what i have done so far...
let's put [tex]\cos^{3}y = x[/tex]
so the function becomes:
[tex]\lim_{y \rightarrow 1^{-}} \frac{\sqrt[3]{\arctan \cos^{3}y} - \arccos \sqrt[3]{\cos^{3}y} - \sqrt[3]{\frac{\pi}{4}}}{(\cos^{3}y-1)}[/tex]
which is equal to
[tex]\lim_{y \rightarrow 1^{-}} \frac{\arctan \cos^{3}y - \frac{\pi}{4}} {(\cos^{3}y-1)(\sqrt[3]{\arctan \cos^{3}y}^{2} + \sqrt[3]{\frac{\pi}{4}}^{2} + \sqrt[3]{\arctan \cos^{3}y} \sqrt[3]{\frac{\pi}{4}})} - \frac{y}{\cos^{3}y-1}[/tex]
which is +infinity

okay but there is one thing wrong here... [tex]\arccos \sqrt[3]{\cos^{3}y}[/tex] is not equal to y because [tex]\sqrt[3]{\cos^{3}y}[/tex] should be in the interval (0,pi), but actually, it's on the interval of (-pi/2 , pi/2) |because when cos^3y is positive only between -pi/2 and pi/2.
know what I'm sayin :confused:
 

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